Comments on: Should Mephedrone Be Legal?

By: Overfiend

Overfiend — Thu, 08 Apr 2010 03:18:36 +0000

@ Marek Zielinski ……..Na m8 the world has always been insane or at least the people in it lol. Its A-Typical I think nowadays for our Governments to react in a knee jerk fashion and to perpetuate fear rather than anticipate and evaluate drugs like Mephedrone (4-MMC) which to be honest may be new but its hardly come into existence overnight. Then we have the PRESS making a bollocks of any reporting at all. We can count out receiving any impartial, informed information from both I fear.
Regarding the deaths from our favourite drug of the moment……Definitely a few I believe, if not most of the deaths could not be attributed to Mephedrone conclusively nor exclusively. I believe that most of these individuals were in fact taking not only Mephedrone but other substances like Ketamine and Alcohol to name only a couple. Not to mention some with underlying health problems and issues.
Indeed the severity that the DRUG Alcohol has amalgamated into our Society is such that for the most part people do not even think of it as a drug…………………….Some Sobering figures for us all to look at here!

Date: 28 January 2010
Coverage: United Kingdom

• In 2008, there were 9,031 alcohol-related deaths in the United Kingdom. The number increased from 8,724 in 2007.
• Rates have doubled since the early 1990s, from 6.7 per 100,000 population in 1992 to 13.6 per 100,000 in 2008.
• There are more alcohol-related deaths in males than females. In 2008, there were 18.7 per 100,000 in men and 8.7 per 100,000 in women.

By: Marek Zielinski

Marek Zielinski — Sat, 03 Apr 2010 14:31:29 +0000

Two people died from overdose of mephedrone.
The Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs is to establish the scientific evidence on its dangers and to recommend whether it should be banned. Professor David Nutt, the sacked chairman of the ACMD, said he backed the home secretary, Alan Johnson, in arguing that such action was premature. Such decisions need to be based on sound science. Some previously reported mephedrone deaths have also turned out to be false alarms.
They try to ban the drug.

Over 3000 people per year die on the UK roads in road accidents.
They do not ban car manufacturing.

Millions of people die every year as casualties of war activities all around the world.
They do not ban production and supply of arms.

Is it the world really becoming insane or is it only my observation?

By: FatboyAl

FatboyAl — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 01:44:39 +0000

Cocktails! That seems to be the problem of recent deaths. I’m 49 years old, love a drink and mixed works great.
I monitor how much I take and I have had some of the best highs in my life with no side effects.
A bit reserch and a small dabble at first. Get it right then(how do you spell wohoo). Incredible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By: Synchronium

Synchronium — Sun, 21 Mar 2010 13:32:44 +0000

Sarah: Wrong! Please go ahead and link us to what you believe to be the original…

By: sarah

sarah — Sun, 21 Mar 2010 08:55:17 +0000

You are not the author of this, this was published on a mephedrone blog some time ago by the original author!

By: Olie

Olie — Sun, 28 Feb 2010 13:30:55 +0000

i personally love miaow its amazing its cheap easy to get hold of and its all good as long as u dont mix it with a drug such as ketamine its good on a night out with mates or if ur in a club it should stay legal for as long as possible

By: Paul

Paul — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 11:25:32 +0000

I’m in two minds about meph I must admit. On the one hand, I have taken it 4 or 5 times recently and had a fantastic night (but I don’t agree there is no comedown, it has made me anxious and low for a few days afterwards). And I will continue to take it in moderation.

On the other hand, I’m a pharmacologist and I agree that it is not necessarily safe to be taking a research chemical that has not been through proper pre-clinical or clinical trial procedures, particularly with the anecdotal evidence of vasculitis and breathing problems.

But I think they key point here is, even if huge amounts of research had been done and the drug was safer than paracetamol, it would still be banned. Because of its effect. It is psychoactive, it is stimulant, and it makes you feel quite nice….which is certainly a no no as far as Governments are concerned.

By: Chris

Chris — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 02:50:53 +0000

i think, it would of course be totally unresponsible to not ban mephedrone as fast as possible. at least until it went through appropriate testing and trial procedures. also, i can imagine that the producing standards in the chinese labs that synthesize it, transport conditions and so on are not according to the standards we would usually accept.
it is a “research chemical”! it has never been appropriately tested in animals or humans. noone has for example a clue if and what long-term side effects will appear. but, given the nature of this “product” it should obviously be analyzed and scientifically tested the same way as psychotropic drugs are.
if a pharmacist would sell some new anti-depressant, just fresh out of the research center, he would probably face imprisonment? in my opinion it is btw the same with all these synthetic cannabinoids, the situation there is similar.
argumenting that the risk in both cases might maybe be acceptable for an individual, is ignoring a lot of evidence based science. in our “developed” world we often enough made the for some people very painful experience how important all that testing is. and the occurences regarding the bromo-dragonfly-deaths just a short while ago showed especially the rc-community how important certain standards in production and quality assurance are.

also, given the quite addictive nature of this substance, having substances like mephedrone available as legal products, should also necessitate availibility of proper treatment-possibilities and training of doctors and other medical personel regarding addiction to stimulants that range somewhere between amphetamines and cocaine. i guess we are far from achieving that. although that might be a consequence of the repressive politics in the last decades, it would surely be better to be prepared before an official approval?

By: Mike Dodds

Mike Dodds — Wed, 27 Jan 2010 14:36:41 +0000

I am of later year and still working but come mid afternoon the leaden blanket envelops the brain. Tried Mephedrone for a limited increase of concentration but not good for this – too short and not sharp enough. A 100mg snort is calming and good in the early evening for a slight change of perspective and lasts around 45 minutes. Surprising side effects: noticeable loss of appetite and reduced intake of alcohol and moderate sexual awareness; all these side effects are a plus for me. Point taken about overdosing but personal discipline is important. No death attributed DIRECTLY to Mephedrone so the jury is still out on this but think alcohol for a moment. Most people can handle a larger or two but a bottle of Vodka? Likewise with Mephedrone. I would guess that anyone taking 500 mgs or above is asking for trouble without first getting to know the substance and how your body is reacting to it. There are more deaths from alcohol poisoning than all the deaths attributed to banned substances and legal recreation drugs put together. The drug agencies need informed information on how people react to new substances to do keep a written record of your experiences.

By: Synchronium

Synchronium — Mon, 18 Jan 2010 15:11:49 +0000

fanyovsky: The demand for a decent stimulant remains. I didn’t mean a demand just for mephedrone.

Your info from Israel posted elsewhere has been very helpful though!