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isPermaLink="false">http://www.synchronium.net/?p=936#comment-31726</guid> <description>What does it take away from your body..say if i wanted to go on 2 day binge, what could I do before I use it to make my expierence last longer and not deprive my body??</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does it take away from your body..say if i wanted to go on 2 day binge, what could I do before I use it to make my expierence last longer and not deprive my body??</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mike Dodds</title><link>http://www.synchronium.net/2010/01/06/should-mephedrone-be-legal/comment-page-1/#comment-23685</link> <dc:creator>Mike Dodds</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 15:14:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.synchronium.net/?p=936#comment-23685</guid> <description>The following was sent to one of the official drug advisory bodies; no reply to date.
I am approaching 70 years of age and have been using Mephedrone since October 2009. I am a retired lecturer but still lecture part-time. During the late afternoons I did – and still do - feel intellectually tired and sought a short-term uplift from the legally available sources. None of these helped and therefore a trawl of the internet suggest that Mephedrone might have a similar effect to stimulant cocaine which I used occasionally in my youth. Sampling Mephedrone it became obvious to me that this was not the case. Having bought legally from an online supplier I experimented carefully with the crystalline powder. A measured does of 100 mgs seemed to be more a relaxing experience than anything approaching elation. I continued this dosage daily, usually around 5.30. The relaxing effects tended to last approximately one hour with no noticeable side effects and therefore I bought another 5 gram supply. The experiments over the new year continued with increasing the dosage to 150 mgs, this taken in 3 separate ‘lines’ 30 minutes apart taken nasally. This kept the moderate effects for some 3 hours. Having taken Mephedrone for the months from October – December 2009 the only noticeable effect to my general well being was a loss of appetite and a loss of desire for my regular evening wine which had been at an approximate level of a bottle and half of white 11% wine per day.
The threat of a ban on Mephedrone prompted a final order. This will probably last until the end of the coming October. Having followed the press and medical coverage of this drug I can only comment on the widespread misinformation that surrounds this drug. I was able to contact the National Programme on Substance Abuse Deaths
International Centre for Drug Policy, St George&#039;s, University of London to enquire on the reported deaths attributed to Mephedrone use. The toxicology department at that time, May this year, had no definitive evidence that Mephedrone had been a primary cause of any of the reported deaths attributed to Mephedrone and to this date none have so far been confirmed.
Having taken Mephedrone now for some 9 months every day with a dose on 60/100 mgs split into 3 lines taken over a 90 minute period I can report no adverse effects. The issue with Mephedrone for me is dosage: I would imagine that a gram of Mephedrone taken by an individual over, say and an hour period, would be as harmful as drinking half a bottle of Vodka in the same time: devastating if one is new to both substances.  In October 2009 I weighed 83 kilos, today I weigh 70 kilos; I eat less but healthily with smaller portions. I drink less, down from 1 and a half bottles of wine a day to less than half a bottle. My general lifestyle includes the Gym 4 times a week and regular checks at my GP indicates stable blood pressure and general good health. It remains to be seen how I will react when the Mephedrone finally runs out but there is definitely no indication from my own physiology that this is anyway for me addictive. I understand that each individual reacts differently to different drugs but I trust that your department can at least have some first hand experiences of users of substances when they are introduce into the market place.
If you need to take this further do let me know. I, like most working within the pharmacology field, do not know the long term effects of drugs both legal and illegal but it is vital that any new drug is thoroughly investigated and I am willing to help in this in any way I can to be objective when looking at an area which won’t go away. One thing that the Mephedrone ban will promote is the illegal supply chain which inevitably will lead to it to be cut with other substances and in the hands of criminal gangs. Of course further research may lead to Mephedrone being seen as a benefit to health, especially if it can be proved to help in obesity and alcohol related problems.
- Unfortunately I still get tired in the late afternoons.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The following was sent to one of the official drug advisory bodies; no reply to date.</p><p>I am approaching 70 years of age and have been using Mephedrone since October 2009. I am a retired lecturer but still lecture part-time. During the late afternoons I did – and still do — feel intellectually tired and sought a short-term uplift from the legally available sources. None of these helped and therefore a trawl of the internet suggest that Mephedrone might have a similar effect to stimulant cocaine which I used occasionally in my youth. Sampling Mephedrone it became obvious to me that this was not the case. Having bought legally from an online supplier I experimented carefully with the crystalline powder. A measured does of 100 mgs seemed to be more a relaxing experience than anything approaching elation. I continued this dosage daily, usually around 5.30. The relaxing effects tended to last approximately one hour with no noticeable side effects and therefore I bought another 5 gram supply. The experiments over the new year continued with increasing the dosage to 150 mgs, this taken in 3 separate ‘lines’ 30 minutes apart taken nasally. This kept the moderate effects for some 3 hours. Having taken Mephedrone for the months from October – December 2009 the only noticeable effect to my general well being was a loss of appetite and a loss of desire for my regular evening wine which had been at an approximate level of a bottle and half of white 11% wine per day.</p><p>The threat of a ban on Mephedrone prompted a final order. This will probably last until the end of the coming October. Having followed the press and medical coverage of this drug I can only comment on the widespread misinformation that surrounds this drug. I was able to contact the National Programme on Substance Abuse Deaths<br
/> International Centre for Drug Policy, St George’s, University of London to enquire on the reported deaths attributed to Mephedrone use. The toxicology department at that time, May this year, had no definitive evidence that Mephedrone had been a primary cause of any of the reported deaths attributed to Mephedrone and to this date none have so far been confirmed.</p><p>Having taken Mephedrone now for some 9 months every day with a dose on 60/100 mgs split into 3 lines taken over a 90 minute period I can report no adverse effects. The issue with Mephedrone for me is dosage: I would imagine that a gram of Mephedrone taken by an individual over, say and an hour period, would be as harmful as drinking half a bottle of Vodka in the same time: devastating if one is new to both substances.  In October 2009 I weighed 83 kilos, today I weigh 70 kilos; I eat less but healthily with smaller portions. I drink less, down from 1 and a half bottles of wine a day to less than half a bottle. My general lifestyle includes the Gym 4 times a week and regular checks at my GP indicates stable blood pressure and general good health. It remains to be seen how I will react when the Mephedrone finally runs out but there is definitely no indication from my own physiology that this is anyway for me addictive. I understand that each individual reacts differently to different drugs but I trust that your department can at least have some first hand experiences of users of substances when they are introduce into the market place.</p><p>If you need to take this further do let me know. I, like most working within the pharmacology field, do not know the long term effects of drugs both legal and illegal but it is vital that any new drug is thoroughly investigated and I am willing to help in this in any way I can to be objective when looking at an area which won’t go away. One thing that the Mephedrone ban will promote is the illegal supply chain which inevitably will lead to it to be cut with other substances and in the hands of criminal gangs. Of course further research may lead to Mephedrone being seen as a benefit to health, especially if it can be proved to help in obesity and alcohol related problems.</p><p>- Unfortunately I still get tired in the late afternoons.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: WeedHead</title><link>http://www.synchronium.net/2010/01/06/should-mephedrone-be-legal/comment-page-1/#comment-23639</link> <dc:creator>WeedHead</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 12 Nov 2010 21:46:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.synchronium.net/?p=936#comment-23639</guid> <description>i just got some snorted 2 lines and its like speed for me so far...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just got some snorted 2 lines and its like speed for me so far…</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Overfiend</title><link>http://www.synchronium.net/2010/01/06/should-mephedrone-be-legal/comment-page-1/#comment-11524</link> <dc:creator>Overfiend</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 03:18:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.synchronium.net/?p=936#comment-11524</guid> <description>@ Marek Zielinski   ........Na m8 the world has always been insane or at least the people in it lol. Its A-Typical I think nowadays for our Governments to react in a knee jerk fashion and to perpetuate fear  rather than anticipate and evaluate drugs like Mephedrone (4-MMC) which to be honest may be new but its hardly come into existence overnight. Then we have the PRESS making a bollocks of any reporting at all. We can count out receiving any impartial, informed information from both I fear.
Regarding the deaths from our favourite drug of the moment......Definitely a few I believe, if not most of the deaths could not be attributed to Mephedrone conclusively nor exclusively. I believe that most of these individuals were in fact taking not only Mephedrone but other substances like Ketamine and Alcohol to name only a couple. Not to mention some with underlying health problems and issues.
Indeed the severity that the DRUG Alcohol has amalgamated into our Society is such that for the most part people do not even think of it as a drug.........................Some Sobering figures for us all to look at here!
Date: 28 January 2010
Coverage: United Kingdom
• In 2008, there were 9,031 alcohol-related deaths in the United Kingdom. The number increased from 8,724 in 2007.
• Rates have doubled since the early 1990s, from 6.7 per 100,000 population in 1992 to 13.6 per 100,000 in 2008.
• There are more alcohol-related deaths in males than females. In 2008, there were 18.7 per 100,000 in men and 8.7 per 100,000 in women.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Marek Zielinski   .….…Na m8 the world has always been insane or at least the people in it lol. Its A-Typical I think nowadays for our Governments to react in a knee jerk fashion and to perpetuate fear  rather than anticipate and evaluate drugs like Mephedrone (4-MMC) which to be honest may be new but its hardly come into existence overnight. Then we have the PRESS making a bollocks of any reporting at all. We can count out receiving any impartial, informed information from both I fear.<br
/> Regarding the deaths from our favourite drug of the moment.…..Definitely a few I believe, if not most of the deaths could not be attributed to Mephedrone conclusively nor exclusively. I believe that most of these individuals were in fact taking not only Mephedrone but other substances like Ketamine and Alcohol to name only a couple. Not to mention some with underlying health problems and issues.<br
/> Indeed the severity that the DRUG Alcohol has amalgamated into our Society is such that for the most part people do not even think of it as a drug.….….….….….….Some Sobering figures for us all to look at here!</p><p>Date: 28 January 2010<br
/> Coverage: United Kingdom</p><p>• In 2008, there were 9,031 alcohol-related deaths in the United Kingdom. The number increased from 8,724 in 2007.<br
/> • Rates have doubled since the early 1990s, from 6.7 per 100,000 population in 1992 to 13.6 per 100,000 in 2008.<br
/> • There are more alcohol-related deaths in males than females. In 2008, there were 18.7 per 100,000 in men and 8.7 per 100,000 in women.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Marek Zielinski</title><link>http://www.synchronium.net/2010/01/06/should-mephedrone-be-legal/comment-page-1/#comment-11360</link> <dc:creator>Marek Zielinski</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 14:31:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.synchronium.net/?p=936#comment-11360</guid> <description>Two people died from overdose of mephedrone.
The Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs is to establish the scientific evidence on its dangers and to recommend whether it should be banned. Professor David Nutt, the sacked chairman of the ACMD, said he backed the home secretary, Alan Johnson, in arguing that such action was premature. Such decisions need to be based on sound science. Some previously reported mephedrone deaths have also turned out to be false alarms.
They try to ban the drug.
Over 3000 people per year die on the UK roads in road accidents.
They do not ban car manufacturing.
Millions of people die every year as casualties of war activities all around the world.
They do not ban production and supply of arms.
Is it the world really becoming insane or is it only my observation?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two people died from overdose of mephedrone.<br
/> The Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs is to establish the scientific evidence on its dangers and to recommend whether it should be banned. Professor David Nutt, the sacked chairman of the ACMD, said he backed the home secretary, Alan Johnson, in arguing that such action was premature. Such decisions need to be based on sound science. Some previously reported mephedrone deaths have also turned out to be false alarms.<br
/> They try to ban the drug.</p><p>Over 3000 people per year die on the UK roads in road accidents.<br
/> They do not ban car manufacturing.</p><p>Millions of people die every year as casualties of war activities all around the world.<br
/> They do not ban production and supply of arms.</p><p>Is it the world really becoming insane or is it only my observation?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: FatboyAl</title><link>http://www.synchronium.net/2010/01/06/should-mephedrone-be-legal/comment-page-1/#comment-10954</link> <dc:creator>FatboyAl</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 01:44:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.synchronium.net/?p=936#comment-10954</guid> <description>Cocktails! That seems to be the problem of recent deaths. I&#039;m 49 years old, love a drink and mixed works great.
I monitor how much I take and I have had some of the best highs in my life with no side effects.
A bit reserch and a small dabble at first. Get it right then(how do you spell wohoo). Incredible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cocktails! That seems to be the problem of recent deaths. I’m 49 years old, love a drink and mixed works great.<br
/> I monitor how much I take and I have had some of the best highs in my life with no side effects.<br
/> A bit reserch and a small dabble at first. Get it right then(how do you spell wohoo). Incredible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Synchronium</title><link>http://www.synchronium.net/2010/01/06/should-mephedrone-be-legal/comment-page-1/#comment-10817</link> <dc:creator>Synchronium</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 13:32:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.synchronium.net/?p=936#comment-10817</guid> <description>Sarah: Wrong! Please go ahead and link us to what you believe to be the original...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah: Wrong! Please go ahead and link us to what you believe to be the original…</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: sarah</title><link>http://www.synchronium.net/2010/01/06/should-mephedrone-be-legal/comment-page-1/#comment-10811</link> <dc:creator>sarah</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 08:55:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.synchronium.net/?p=936#comment-10811</guid> <description>You are not the author of this, this was published on a mephedrone blog some time ago by the original author!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are not the author of this, this was published on a mephedrone blog some time ago by the original author!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Olie</title><link>http://www.synchronium.net/2010/01/06/should-mephedrone-be-legal/comment-page-1/#comment-10111</link> <dc:creator>Olie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 13:30:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.synchronium.net/?p=936#comment-10111</guid> <description>i personally love miaow its amazing its cheap easy to get hold of and its all good as long as u dont mix it with a drug such as ketamine its good on a night out with mates or if ur in a club it should stay legal for as long as possible</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i personally love miaow its amazing its cheap easy to get hold of and its all good as long as u dont mix it with a drug such as ketamine its good on a night out with mates or if ur in a club it should stay legal for as long as possible</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Paul</title><link>http://www.synchronium.net/2010/01/06/should-mephedrone-be-legal/comment-page-1/#comment-9316</link> <dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 11:25:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.synchronium.net/?p=936#comment-9316</guid> <description>I&#039;m in two minds about meph I must admit. On the one hand, I have taken it 4 or 5 times recently and had a fantastic night (but I don&#039;t agree there is no comedown, it has made me anxious and low for a few days afterwards). And I will continue to take it in moderation.
On the other hand, I&#039;m a pharmacologist and I agree that it is not necessarily safe to be taking a research chemical that has not been through proper pre-clinical or clinical trial procedures, particularly with the anecdotal evidence of vasculitis and breathing problems.
But I think they key point here is, even if huge amounts of research had been done and the drug was safer than paracetamol, it would still be banned. Because of its effect. It is psychoactive, it is stimulant, and it makes you feel quite nice....which is certainly a no no as far as Governments are concerned.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m in two minds about meph I must admit. On the one hand, I have taken it 4 or 5 times recently and had a fantastic night (but I don’t agree there is no comedown, it has made me anxious and low for a few days afterwards). And I will continue to take it in moderation.</p><p>On the other hand, I’m a pharmacologist and I agree that it is not necessarily safe to be taking a research chemical that has not been through proper pre-clinical or clinical trial procedures, particularly with the anecdotal evidence of vasculitis and breathing problems.</p><p>But I think they key point here is, even if huge amounts of research had been done and the drug was safer than paracetamol, it would still be banned. Because of its effect. It is psychoactive, it is stimulant, and it makes you feel quite nice.…which is certainly a no no as far as Governments are concerned.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
