I don’t know how much people outside “the industry” have heard about mephedrone, but by all accounts, it’s exploded in popularity over the past few months. In the last three months, there’s been at least 50 news stories reposted to Drugs-Forum on the topic, and probably quite a few more that haven’t been picked up. We’ve got reports of teens dying, 11 year olds taking the stuff and a guy ripping his balls off — all the classic examples of the media whipping up an unnecessary (and untrue) shit storm. I’ve also read lots of anecdotes about the drug’s prevalence among students, friendship groups and even dealers of illegal drugs (points for diversification!). Since my articles on JWH-018 have been reasonably popular and stimulated some interesting discussion, I felt it was about time we gave mephedrone the same treatment.
The Basics
Mephedrone is not only cheap and legal, but it’s also incredibly effective. It’s a short-acting stimulant that feels something like a mixture of cocaine and ecstasy. If that wasn’t enough to explain its popularity, then the icing on the cake is the almost complete lack of a comedown the next day when used in moderation. Purities of over 99% make another great selling point when compared with similar illegal drugs.
Mephedrone is a white, crystalline powder with little to no smell. The term “Mephedrone” comes from methyl–ephedrone, describing the chemical structure. Other names for it include:
- 4-MethylMethCathinone (methcathinone is another name for ephedrone)
- 4-MMC
- 4-MMCAT
- MCAT (This is incorrect, but people use it anyway)
- Meow
- Bubbles (seems to be a brand name for capsules containing it and methylone, another research chemical)
Effects include an initial euphoria, which tapers off to a milder stimulation. Mephedrone does seem to oil social situations rather well and get everyone talking, laughing and having a good time, especially during the initial euphoria. Several users have compared it to cocaine, but some how less jittery and “arrogant”, while others will compare it to a more rushy ecstasy (which has to be a good thing, given the current state of the MDMA market). Actually, the effects seem to depend very much on dose and your chosen route of administration.
The most common ways to get this stuff into your blood are snorting it and eating it. As you can probably imagine, eating it will give a longer, less intense experience, while doing lines of it will give a much shorter, more intense buzz and make you want to keep taking it, but we’ll get to that later. Oh, I should probably mention that snorting it feels not too dissimilar from being raped in the sinuses by a Portuguese Man o’ War, particularly for your first line.
Other reported methods of administration include shoving it up your arse, requiring less than an oral dose and peaking somewhere between an oral or insufflated dose, and intravenously injecting it, which apparently isn’t that great, having a similar effect profile to being snorted with a million times the risk.
Dosage
A single oral dose would typically be between 150 mg and 300 mg, while lines can range from 50 mg to a monster 150 mg rail.
Pharmacology
If only we knew! Unfortunately, no one knows anything for certain, so we’re forced to do a bit of guesswork. If it feels like a cross between MDMA and cocaine, then we can assume that there’s some serotonin and dopamine involvement. The apparent addictiveness of mephedrone (more on that later, srsly), along with talkativeness also points to dopamine pathways, while the similarity of some side effects compared with serotonin depletion (taking too much MDMA or abruptly discontinuing selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors [SSRIs]) points to the serotonin pathways.
I would love some more information on this, so if you ever come across anything in the future, please report back!
Misconceptions
There are a number of misconceptions surrounding mephedrone, which we should clear up:
Legal does not mean safe
While it seems that users can take vast quantities of the stuff and still function, we don’t know what the long term effects of mephedrone use will entail. A handful of people have died from taking it too. While the number is tiny compared with alcohol, it’s still always a good thing to remember.
Purity isn’t necessarily accurate
Mephedrone bought online will certainly be purer than illegal drugs bought on the street, but claims of 99.9% purity may not be true. Since it’s not sold for human consumption (like everything legal and fun), I’m not sure an accurate purity measure is required. Also, that 0.01% could be some deadly poison. It probably won’t be, but it might!
“Plant Food” might not be mephedrone
Lots of those news stories I’ve mentioned above have listed a million different “street names” for this drug, including “Plant Food”. No one is actually calling it plant food, it’s just how it, and lots of other compounds like it, are sold. If you’ve obtained anything psychoactive packaged as plant food, make sure you know what the hell it is you’re taking!
Side Effects
Side effects can be many and varied, some serious and some not. Mephedrone shares a number of the typical side effects you’d expect to find with any stimulant, such as:
- Increased heart rate (tachycardia)
- Raised blood pressure (hypertension)
- Not wanting to sleep (insomnia)
- Not wanting to eat (anorexia)
- Chewing/grinding teeth (bruxism)
- Moving your eyes loads (nystagmus)
More mephedrone-specific, and so perhaps more serious side effects include
- Turning blue at the extremities & feeling cold (vasoconstriction)
- Pains in the chest, throat and nose
- Nosebleeds when snorted, especially with prolonged or frequent use
The more you use, the more the side effects become apparent and the initial pleasant effects diminish. Also, significant evidence is coming forward suggesting circulation issues are not just vasoconstriction, but something more serious — autoimmune vasculitis, where the immune system attacks your own body. This would seem to account for some of the odd and infrequent side effects, such as bruising or turning blue at the joints. Current reports suggest that this isn’t an issue of a dodgy supply for some people compared with the rest, but rather a small percentage of the population are at risk, probably because of some genetic differences. If you’ve noticed this, stop taking mephedrone! This condition will only get worse the more you consume. Add to that the usual stimulant-induced vasoconstriction, and you could find yourself with some serious problems.
Warning
Mephedrone can be addictive!
- It’s easy to have several large sessions per week because of the cheapness and lack of comedown. Several people have reported taking over 20g per month.
- It’s easy to keep taking it, especially when snorted, so a single line can turn into 5g session easily if you lack self control. There have been a few reports of people taking 5-7g over a 48 hour long single session.
- Tolerance can also develop, so more is required for the same effect.
Safe Usage Tips
Mephedrone is not 100% safe, but then again, nothing is. To make sure you’re as safe as possible, here are a few tips:
- Don’t buy it in bulk — 80% of people won’t be able to resist the charms of a massive bag of the stuff. Sure, you may save a few quid on the gram, but if your consumption sky-rockets, you’re not saving anything.
- If you do buy in bulk, limit yourself — it’s all too easy to “just have one more line”, so perhaps let your friend look after your supply for you, or if you’re going out, take a predetermined quantity out with you and stick to it.
- Don’t snort it if you think there’s any chance you will become addicted to it — this route of administration makes you want to keep on taking it much more than an oral dose, despite the snotty nose and watering eyes.
- Eat healthily before and after — your body needs a good supply of nutrients, vitamins, etc to stay healthy and replenish your neurotransmitters. Forcing yourself to eat, especially during long binges, is essential. At least munch some vitamin tablets or something.
- Take some magnesium supplements — this helps relax your muscles and stop all the jaw clenching and chewing that goes with most stimulants.
- If you’re going to snort it, blow your nose soon after to clear out any powder — drugs aren’t absorbed from your nostrils, so you want to get rid of it. I’d also suggest giving your nose a wash with either a spray bottle and some water, or by cramming some wet tissue up there with your head tilted back.
hi all i am from malta and right now here its crazy about it, it come more then coke don’t know why but it is, also here it sold half a gram for 50 euro believe me or not but that how they selling it, thank god no one had die yet, i am glad that in uk they ban it , cause here in Malta they order it from the internet, now glad there well not have any mephedrone and bilive me coke it better then mephedrone cause that could kill you and coke well not that how i feel thank all and take care
i no it may not seem right but i have a feeling that my boyfriend has started taking mkat n im not sure that he will tell me the truth if i ask him. i was wanting to no if there are any big side affects that will show if he has taken it.
WARNING WARNING WARNING
me and friends have been taking this for about 2 months now..
at the start it was all fun but now we do at least 3 grams a days each..We cant socialize without it..and trust me your tolerence goes up ALOT
I have a friend who is addicted to crack cocaine,now he has replaced his addiction with crack with mephedrone that he buys in big bulks over the internet
IF YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT DOING IT!!!
dont!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hi all,
We are, and have been for many years, doing various drugs except Heroin. In the end this is simply the best drug on the market — buzz purposes, zero effects etc etc.…. But, and there is a big “BUT” — it is highy addictive… to reiterate what The wise man said in the last post the same has happened to all of us 30 somethings now!! We find we consume 10g’s a nite… we are all pot smokers…have been for ten years and this stuff is definitely the worst.…not at first but with sustained use! We find ourselves ringing people at 4,5,6,7,8 in the morning looking for more.… it happens! As smokers we never abused marijuana like that… so why this “Wild cat” etc.… I am going to tell you, imo, its because its too easy to get, nice and cheap, easy to take and boosts confidence etc… but once u build a tolerance to it.…which has happened to all of us… it becomes a major problem. I have personally developed major anxiety issues, social or otherwise, which has affected my work terribly.…(never had problems like this before) and you would prob expect that to happen to me after ten years of smoking weed etc but it didnt… this drug is dangerous because its easy… it WILL lead to more use, it WILL lead to people taking more to get the “buzz” and in the end potential physiological issues too… All drugs, when taken in moderation are controllable but this is the easiest to get… so I predict and epidemic!! Good help us as Naphadrome is next on the list to replace mephadrome and many more sisters to come.… stick to your pints and few smokes guys.… Peace out…
This info really helped alot! im hopefully recieving a small amount of this stuff soon. Im talking such a small amount It wont be around for long. so this review was very helpful and alliviated some of my fears.… Im a big “uppers” guys and love anything that gets my blood flowin… I’m not worried about getting addicted to the stuff cuz I have an extremely high tolerance to addiction… I drank a 12 pack every day for 1 1/2 years through college and stopped cold turkey and felt no ill effects… Ive quit smoking cigs after 4 years and ive quit weed more times then i can count, Ive been down the Phenazepam route which by far was the worst.… yeah 1000mg of Phenazepam in a few days.… can we say permenent nuerological dmg followed by hellish comdown.… I took about 250mg of MDPV a day for about a month and dropped it cold turkey, felt like shit for a few days but oh well… ANYWAYS (lol and listing my recent drug history) we’ll see how it goes, alot of the bad stuff im readin connection with these drugs turns out to be complete bullshit.… lets hope im right
Fuck 20g’s per month, we do 20g’s a week. — Newbies! Mephedroné rules, and the side effects are nice ! i love to be a cracker. Bitches.
I have been taking methadrone for 4 months and it is great. I can see how people would become addictive, for the euphoria that the drug produces. BUT if you stop taking it, as i did for a while. I hade no nasty side effects. Yes i did want more of it for the first week, but that faded. I stopped as my supply is now low, and i use it as treat now and then. x x
First, I have not read all of the comments! Really have better things to do than hear about everyone’s experiences with getting high on a “legal” substance. Let’s all not forget that clorox and other chemicals are legal too.….…for those of you sober You get my point!
What really sparked this posting is the fact that people would take the chance on their own children taking/experimenting with ANY drugs because they feel their children should hear the whole truth. To that I say “Hope you can sleep at night when YOU do have children” and then report back to us how that works out for YOU!!!!
Hi I found your information interesting and feel I am better informed about this now. However I am still not sure how I would be able to detect if my teenager was using this on a regular basis. For example say they went out in the evening and used this what would I be looking for on their return home that would indicate use of this drug? Are the side effects only apparent immediatly after taken? Are there certain changes in behaviour that would show say a day after taking the drug? The reason I ask is because a friend of a friend has said she heard my daughter was using this regularly and to be honest I am shocked to say the least. My daughter holds down a full time job and I have never had any reason to suspect her of using drugs. I don’t want to just accuse her I would like to have a bit more information before I even get round to approaching this which may I add could well be vindictive rumours.
Thanks
If your daughter is still holding down a job and is showing no tell-tale signs of addiction then is the Mephedrone use really a problem? Some people can use drugs recreationaly and it will have no impact upon their personality or life. I personally prefer to dabble in a bit of illegal drugs at the weekends but not too often and am currently on board for a first at University and maintaining a weekend job.
My advice to you would be not to condemn illegal drugs but try to have an honest conversation with your daughter and inform her of the potential harms if she takes moderate use too far. Everything in moderation is the key. I honestly believe that a little bit of Mephedrone is far safer than a weekend binging on the horrible substance that is alcohol!
Well I asked her tonight and she initially denied taking it and then said she had but only the once and then got angry with me threatening to leave!! I just told her if it was just the once then lets forget about it, if not and she feels she has got into something she can’t get out of then I am here to help/support or if she is dabbling at weekends and is happy to carry on doing this then at least read up on the facts.
I agree moderation is the key but having two cousins who started dabbling at glue sniffing and taking acid in their teens and who are now addicted to heroin, valium and will take anything to escape reality I can not help but be concerned. The reality is not everyone is able to dabble every now and then for a variety of reasons and I wouldn’t want her to be one of those who gets totaly hooked.
Anyway I appreciate your response and will take on board what you say thanks.
I loved the buzz of Mcat and can see how it has become so popular and even addictive. But I won’t ever touch it again because the comedowns are so horrendous. Maybe I took too much but the long and horrible episodes of depression I experienced was like an awful nightmare and my body just felt so toxic and almost ‘dirty’. It is scary stuff. A good thrill but not worth it!
hi i took this mcat friday and its now sunday and im still feelin it! i feel achey throat is so sore! but the last time i took this before friday was 3 months back its only a now and then thing, how long will it take to get out of your system? and whats the best way to get it out of your system is it drinken alot of water?
Question? everytime I do m cat my penis and my balls shrink drasticaly to the point that my penis is smaller than my thumb. Is this normal? Please let me know, thanks
Hello Saul,
It is quite common for the penis size to shrink during a Mephedrone session. It happens on other drugs such as MDMA and Speed too. It’s due to the drug being a vasoconstrictor which makes the blood not flow to the penis as it is being distributed to more important organs.
Whilst I’m here, just thought I’d check up and see how Mon’s daughter is. I hope she’s ok and you two have sorted things out!
Take care all.
A good and honest article; the bit about autoimmune vasculitis particularly interests me..
I would consider myself quite a heavy user of drone. At my worst, i easily did 2 – 3 grams a night.
On one particularly bad night where i had been bingeing for 5 days straight without sleep, I starting experiencing swelling in my limbs; it turned out to be lymphedema (fluid retention and tissue swelling when the lymphatic system has been damaged) as a result of khat poisoning (as i believe). I was absolutely terrified, disorientated and my body felt like it was shutting down. In addition, my extremities were blue, tingling and my palms were excreting tiny black fibrous looking things — had no idea what they were. I’ve been searching google for a while to see if any other users have experienced the same (or similar) side effects as these, but nothing’s come up yet. I’d be interested to know if there are any other people who have experienced slightly more unusual side effects on drone, or is it just me?
On the whole, mephedrone is a disgustingly addictive drug, and I would advise people to stay away from all other research chemicals, too. next to nothing is known about them, and it’s just not worth it.
im 19,i dont no any of the chemistry of this drug or anything,ive been doing it a good while,usually when i go back to sessions on a night out(doing upto 6 grams in a night and staying up for days not eating),there does be just an unlimited supply,have been staying off the crap a good while ‚but done it last friday like a fool,snorted 2 grams and still feeling like shit days after, ive noticed myself ive changed and just want to go back to the way i was( just smoking weed)
ive noticed all my friends have changed to,i seem to have short term memory loss an i get seriously paro sometimes,thinking people may be talking about me or dissing me,dont no what to do these days,become pretty ill lately been in for a few scans(brain,chest,endoscopey and a few more) waiting on results from that,trying to get back to myself,but finding it very difficult,wish i could say good things about this drug but all the after effects are BAD!! been getting sharp shooting pains in my head an all,anyway can only say one thing and that is to STAY AWAY FROM THIS SHIT,FUCKS UP YOUR LIFE!! has fucked up mine anyway,peace out and stay safe!
hello, i use meph for 2 years now. i strongly recommend to any one to try it and use it on regular basis. Is a very healthy product and is perfectly safe! I usually do, 3-4g/session, and is quite good. You need to drink a lot of water because you loose some, and get some xanax from time to time just in case! i usually smoke also a lot of chemos along with this meph thing.
have a nice trip to hell!
I take Meph. I’ve taken coke before but wouldn’t touch pills and meph seems to be the best of both worlds. I took 2 grams over a 3 day period, I got a nosebleed, the rigours (continuous, uncontrollable shaking), insomnia and an inability to eat, sweating like never before and increased heart rate were also symptoms. I skagged (chewed my mouth) so much I had a lot of jaw pain. I had an incredible time on it though, you don’t feel pain or alcohol influence (I was drinking as well), and that feeling of euphoria and stress relief is amazing. Definitely a must if you’re looking to escape for a while, and with no come down! You do end up unbelievably thirsty though, so be advised that you will need access to litres and litres of water, be careful not to take too much though cause I’ve heard horror stories about people’s brains swelling from drinking too much water, I don’t know if it’s true but I’m not taking the chance. I took it then 2 weeks later, only a quarter gram, and am now experiencing coldness in my fingers and my body feels like it’s been hit by a truck, muscle pain in my arms and legs. But apart from that the high you experience is fantastic and it’s so much better than going out getting drunk, cheaper too. I love the stuff but would still be wary of taking it too frequently. Oh and by the way, it absolutely stinks! I kept it in a handbag of mine when I was out and I’ll never be able to use it again the bitter smell is HORRIFIC! And people can supposedly smell it off you too…
Long time since posted here.……@ lovin it.….. yeah the smell can be quite potent and you can indeed smell it from your sweat. Especially if like me the usage was 10G + a day and I actually know 2 people who took an ounce per day I shit you not. All stopped now tho since shortly after ban in April.
I’ve tried a huge range of drugs, both legal and illegal, from stimulants to sedatives. In 15 years of experimenting with drugs nothing was ever as addictive as mephedrone. That stuff is incredilbly compulsive — once you do a line you will want to do another line every ten minutes until your stash is depleted. A big stash (5g to 20g) is easily depleted over three days with no sleep.
I ended up completely ruining my life on mephedrone. Before meph I would take drugs maybe once a month. MMcat was a different story though; I got so addicted I’d take it all day long — at work, in the toilets of a supermarket, at yoga or tai chi lessons.
I’m all for drugs and totally against prohibition but I think mmcat is dangerous and too addictive. If the govt wasn’t so short sighted they’d realise that by decriminalizing less harmful drugs like MDMA they would be saving many people from the harm that inferior drugs cause.
Hi there Peoples, i thought i might as well share my info on this, as i read this after i done it for the first time, and was terrified by the results.….…Please read on
im a 22 year old male 6ft 3 tall and weigh 100kg,
Ill tell the story from beginning to end as the results that terrified me shocked me even, i think may have damaged my brain, eyesight, Nervous system and maybe nearly died from a allergic reaction too it if possible????
Here in NZ it is banned and ILLEGAL and is a mission to get it here without it getting caught up in the postal system.
I am a frequent pot smoker ( daily joint after work never before, cant function with the work i have to do on it) mainly coz of habit and friends and the culture here in NZ.
i recently gave up smoking meth around about 4 months ago, was sort of a ritual to buy on a friday for me after work, not alot like 0.2grams for the weekend, as i used to think it made me more confident and got alot more work done and all that type of crap. Realized6 months down the track it’s doing the worse things for me paranoia chronically to the days( have suffered from it ever since, anxiety attacks for no apprant reason??? and all that stuff were you think your addicted but it’s just the habbit over the months, but it is a bitch to get through. So stopped all that
now and dont hang out with any one that does so, dont want anything to do with the stuff . (thoought i might as well tell you what i just went through, and that i have major self confidence issues along with this chronic paranoia and anxiety and over thinking shit even though im not high and im only 22 and no signs of subsiding even though quit 4-5months ago??)..
RIGHT now to the Mephadroneand it’s effects on me.……
i am going to try and explain all this as accurately as possible. My mind is Struggling to work properly and smoothly and typing the keyboard and thinking of words to type has become a mission so please bare with me if this doesnt make sense as my mind isnt wanting to make sense for some apprant reason???? was working perfect till this shit hit me, and i regret it..
Friday Night
Went to a friends23rd bday party at there house got there around 11pm, (the guys are Dubstep and drum and bass Dj’S and rich so i dont have to telll you about what comes with them do i now lol??? got there with 3 close friends at 11pm didnt intend on taking anything and turns out he was giving the mephadrone out willy nilly to every one in cap form and shouting lines left right and centre to everyone on top of the cap. so everyones ate them so in total im guessing the cap holds .3 of the powder mephadrone, and i had 2 massive slugs probly equalling out to like .5 maybe??? me and my two friends same size build drug taking doseges and everything took the same.
as you’d know you talk ya arse off to everyone there coz there all on it and the nights going mint ya know all emotionall and shit lol?? we all had a mean night radi radi rah and along comes 4 oclock and the effects arent subsiding at all with me and friends said theres wore off a wile ago but could still feel it.… so theres not alot i could do, all i could do is stay awake through the saturday with the dudes i was with, WIRED as a muther !@#$%.
gets to 9 pm saturday night and body is tierd and mind is still wired all sense’s enhanced…hearing eyesight touch, and now im like wtf i havent touched the stuff since 12am friday and it was fluff all i had?? so i thought well ill have a joint to try put me too sleep (coz i went to bed as was jittering shaking). and this had to of kicked the buzz in like something stupid.…couldnt sit still eyes when closed and actually tried to get some shut eye would auto open my eye lids some how? whentrying to go sleep??? heart was beating twice as fast as usual so was trying to tone that down while i can see my chest puming just from my heart going absolutlymental while seeing shit move in my room at the same time and trying to process on how to get the toilet coz i didnt know how, remeber having some convulsions??? anyways
it’s now12 pm sunday and the shaking has calmed down my pupils arent dialated any more looking normal but there is lag in them from when one ball as to move to where the other is facing so can see that a bit and it’s a bitch to focus any more with my eyes? mind is like its the other way round?? not making its mind up and not telling my eyes where to go instantly???ive noticed people said poor circulation in feet.….i have that.…..purply red knees check i have that.….. and heart is still at a decemt pace? and am hating the results.…..i’d rather not have a heart attack tothis shit???? has put me off drugs completly, i say a very dangerous drug, proceed with caution. DO NOT TOUCH
Also if snorting take a pallet load of tissues if it your first time as isnt just a constant river comming out your nose…
Every one else at the party was sweet no bad sideeffect, so must show that it is a induvidual thing, and that THC is not to mixed with, as have read in other forums that when combined can cause leathal effects.…..A sports man just dies here a few months ago from smoking meth and smoking pot in the same night few hours between each other and the dude was my age and way fitter than me?
ILL THINK ILL TAKE THAT AS A SIGN AND STAY WELL CLEAR OF IT!!!!!!!!!!!! COULD HAVE SAME EFFECT ON YOU IF YOU WANT TO GAMBLE YOUR LIFE??????
Any ways thats my story about it, not sure what to do as of now might just not do anything too excessively heart racing and bide my time. The anxiety and paranoia are chronically bad its hard to just tell my fingers where to go? maybe dameged nervous sytem??? i dont know but yeah.….……
DONT DO IT
Sorry for the novel and if ive repeated stuff? also very short term memory loss??? couldnt remember having a shower??? maybe all these side effects are coz the first’s night no sleep and this nights no sleep and im just sleep deprived for the whole halluciation shit but have never hallucinated before of any drug???
Also hear in NZ everyone takes it orally or sorts it no, IV as it were and none of them no how addictive it is, nor did i til i saw all these posts about it being moreaddictive than anything?? but yeah fuck it not worth ya life or buzz time if i dont say so my self.…
Also sorry for poor spelling and grammar and sentances
Sorry for all these post but also problems with breathing, always big deep breaths randomly and exale and keep forgetting to breathe at a steady rate?? i take it might be retarded due to one use of this substance?? is it possible
lol Turns out it was wasnt this Mephedrone stuff, was something even worse.….…MDPV and fuck me, was this some chronic shit.……all my posts before were from saturday morning being on the stuff.….… so ill get to Sunday and then Monday.….
Saturday night.…
Effects of it are still going strong, friend tells me i looked cracked the fluff out and that when i look at people my eyes dont move my head does.…. Pupils still dilated and feel awquard like an awquard silence has just occured but it hasnt lol, jittery as and headed home expecting i could sleep seeing as i havent slept for two nights sleep i missed out will be easy as to conk out.……no chuck fucking way was this happening, tossing and turning all night had the mad jaw cramp and moving my jaw like a texan chewing tabacco, jittering. Now the Paranoia was so bad i would of looked like i had a imginary friend fucking with me constantly out side the Window. I kept on hearing footsteps out side my window thinking people were in and around the house, would believe for about a minute sit up look out window relize im paranoid and drugged the fluff out and try go asleep again for like the 1,000,000th time and for some reason i would hear shit moving out the window thinking this muther trucker is gunna get a throat chop.… jump up same again, and again,same again,same again,same again,same again,same again,same again,same again.….….….….….….….….….was so frustrated by this point that i thought im loosing my marbles and im going to be like this for ever and brain damaged had accoured, (Still wondering that now???). so im sitting there thinking of all the shit that gone wrong with me in my life and i keep adding it all to together think i was a drug fucked loser and should learned by now.… i think not.
gets to 5 am Monday still awake cant sleep now havent sleep since the thursday night so 3 nights with out a wink of sleep thinking, oh my god what have i done, im dead and shit scared sitting in bed, waited for my old man to get outta bed so he can come see me didnt/couldnt get outta bed phone him from my bed and tell him to come see me.
and all of a sudden i was balling my eyes out coz i was thinking i was a failure and why this happen to me thinking i was like it for life.…. get a text in the morning quite early like 7am from a mate asked if i had slept, i said no he said he didnt either, and had exactly the same problems me so was sort of a relief, he had panic attack, thinking his jumper was talking to him and stuff, he thought his body was shutting down coz of feet and hands so cold , and cbf’d moving so he got a mate to take him to hospital, and they asked him what he was on and at the time none of us new so they asked if it was methapthetamine he said na and they didnt belive him so sort of just told to fuck of in simple turns.….(you’d think a hospital would care for ya know, the muther fackers souldnt care less so he went home). i went doctor think wtf is this shit he gave me sleeping pills x5 and get home, get a text saying every one that took it is feeling the same and feel so shit they considered suicide the comedown was sooooooooooooo bad now one could belive it.….…now monday night still feeling the same, same as every one gave a few sleeping pills out to the DJ’s coz they took more then we did, plus they were freaking the fuck out coz they handed this to every one thinking it was Mephdrone thinking that just killed a few people (paranoia right there). but evry one is still feeling shit 10pm monday night, work tommorrow as had to take today off today.….
we all had about 350mg of capsule form.
and some had about 2 – 3 lines practically right after they just dropped..
supposed to only take 5-10mg at a time and ween on to it…
some how i dont think that happend and we took fucking way too much.
was a wake up call for every one just taking whats there for granted, coz here pills are shit and if i cap comes around there you’ll sweet. but not these ones
But yeah MDVP is great if you like your life falling down on you in bed thinking your about to die, over the average as crackie looking high buzz.…. and public looking at you like ya a fucking meer cat standing there not knowing what todo with ya self peering out of some fucking god know
what.….read on some other forums 3 to five days come down so only 2 more of the most terryfinf shit of my life but yeah.….….……
but yeah peace/sleep out.….….….……if ya can haha which ya wont.…
Yeah, MDPV can be quite intense. Certainly a lot different to mephedrone!
You might find this post mentioning MDPV of interest: A Look At Legal Highs
“Also, that 0.01% could be some deadly poison. It probably won’t be, but it might!“
I stopped scanning at this point. Show ANY evidence that sold mephedrone as contained any amount of a deadly poison.
“I think it, therefore it must be true! Yeahh… Mephedrone: The FACTS”
Nearly everything was said here except one thing:
*don’t trust erowid in having even half-complete information about speeds!*
The information there is so much biased, the people don’t see the harm the dopaminergic drugs does to them.
I checked it about a year ago to see what they write about methamphetamine a drug that I took for a year (non-IV). It’s a bitter laugh.
Did they mention memory loss so massive that it can’t be explained by forgetting? No.
Did they mention the meth gives you the tendency to create false memories? No!
Did they mention that problems with memory and motivations don’t subside 1⁄2 a year after you stop taking it? No!
Did they mention the hearth palpitations are still there after 3 months? No!
Clearly, in erowid is too much meth-heads involved. The dopaminergic drugs (meth, coke, mephedrine, …) are the quickest dementogens in common use, definitely surpassing ethanol in mental harm, maybe comparable with sniffing toluen.
Everyone who just got high on speed would say it’s great. Many people will say to themself it’s OK and not addictive, so they can have another tweek. This is the way the dopaminergic drugs change your cognition.
Background: Where I live, the meth is sold 40 – 60% pure, just slightly below the theoretical maximum for phosphorus/iodine reduction cooking method. I took it ’bout 3 days in a row every second week or every week for a year (it depended upon the strength of my decision to stop).
Don’t anyone hope to be able to assess the harm the speeds are doing to you. Stupid people can’t tell they are stupid.
Stupid people just have problems remembering things, they believe what they want, they will be sure that you are wrong, not them.
The last information from me: the longer you don’t sleep, the more damage you inflict upon your brain. That’s why the meth is top dementogen of all.
First time posting on this site but I read every word from top to bottom. Incredible, realistic shit! I started using drone about 2 months ago and at first I was just like everyone else. I told everybody I knew, that this was the best drug to ever come on the scene. In all I probably only actually used it 7 or 8 times. The first 2 times were only an all nighter. Slept great for 18 hrs when I crashed!
The third time I got 2 grams and did it by myself while I was camping! Not a big camper either! That made me realize it is def a social thing.
The fourth time my buddy and I went on a 7 day bender.{we did it all IV}At about the 4th day straight we decided we were going to get geared up and run through the woods looking for stuff that really wasnt there!!! Def hallucinations after no sleep!!! The only thing we didn’t bring with us was a gun, and thats just cause nobody would let us take one cause they all knew how messed up we really were. {we didn’t think so} Got about a mile or so out in the middle of the woods and made a nice cozy place to sit down and do some more! We did find our way back after a fassion and the next few days just got stranger. Didn’t realize how many hidden things there were in the trees!!! At least i thought then. I had to take a few days away from it after that tho.
The final time was just a cuple weeks ago. and 3 days off prob wasn’t enuf before going on another 7 day bender. Especially since my eyes were all gooped up, my junk was shriveled up to a 3rd the size it should be, my fingers and toes were blueing and swollen, my lips were cracked and bleeding, I was dehydrated, malnourished and way under slept. Only live once tho right! Thats what we said and started in again. We both went straight for a week though my buddy came and went cause he had shit to do, and people to run from! {oh yeah} Me I just stayed home and thought the skunks were after me. In my house and outside. My neighbors musta thought I was totally outa my fckin mind out there running around trying to get away from the dam things or kill them!!
My ride ended with a trip to the hospital. Totally lost control of my mind and body. Complete paranoid psychosis, severe hallucinations and my bowels just kept letting go and I didn;t know or care. Been off it for 10 days now and i’m still having some bad side effects. Although my dik is coming back to the front, my fingers and toes still swell and turn purple, can’t complete words at times, have no memory and the best part. NO FCKIN SLEEP!!!! This shit is so addictive that i’ll sit here and think about doin another shot. After all that and the fact that i’m going to rehab for 6 months, you would think it wouldn’t even cross my mind.
TO ANYONE THINKING ABOUT TRYING IT, DONT FOR GODS SAKE!!! Believe me and everyone else, you cant do it just once, or once in awhile if you have any type of an addictive personality especially. If you do, moderate, moderate, moderate or you’ll disassociate!
i have done m cat personaly and it is one of the best things i have aver done
1 – 2 lines every blue moon wont harm you but if ur like me ull end up killing yourself on it i did 3 days solid started with a few grams of coke then started on the bubble i usually go home have a few pipes of skunk and im asleep but u cant do that with bubble i had to take valium just to try and relax my body my heart was beating that fast you could see my chest rising i abused it instead of respecting it and using it sencibly im only 21 but iv been taking e’s and coke since i was 15 iv taken everythin apart from heroin and crack and bubble is by far the wost experience iv ever had and im glad i did it because ill never touch hard drugs again.….……
i agree with the very first person that commented on this article, it is very accurate and as precise an analysis of a “legal” drug as it gets. and the dudes right, there are alot of misconceptions and bad mouthing this particular drug but hey i figured if i cant do illegal things then y not try a lil recreational “legal” substance every now and then 4 fun. but also like it said in this article, be careful of getting addicted. i find that people who use the illegal form of this substance only replace their addiction with this legal substance andddd thats not a great idea. anything that is overdone is likely to have very bad if not deadly effects. so if u had an addiction to the illegal form of this substance and want a substitute by all means but DO NOT think u can do the same amount of this stuff as u did of the illegal stuff and please do not make this an everyday habit. i abused it the first time i tried it and abused is stretching it because i did it n moderation but lets jus say i stayed up for 3 days and when i finally did sleep.…ha i felt like a nimwit piece of trash who lost half my brain lol. but like i said if its legal…y not? but always b safe, no matter if its deemed “legal” or “illegal”…enjoy folks and share on your mephedrone experience whether good or bad
mephedrone is possibly the worst thing that has ever happened to me..
about a year ago or just over i was in college doing an art course which started off going pretty well with a bit of recreational marijuana useage.. i was also in a punk band and the future was looking amazingly exciting and positive.. i got into the habit of consuming mephedrone on stage and frequently in my spare time whilst partying and chilling with friends etc all i’d like to say is that it messed up a lot of stuff for me and I have even spent a small amount of time in a mental health clinic i feel this wouldn’t of happened if it wasn’t for mephedrone. It seriouosly screwed up a lot of things for me that could have gone very well and I guess the last year has been a major learning curb. All i’d like to say right now is that i don’t adivse taking mephedrone in fact i strongly advise against it and if you ignore me you may very well end up wishing you’d listened to my advise.
good luck,
please stay safe (even if you do have slightly nilistic “givashit” tendancies).
mephedrone is seriously harmful to you physically and mentally and i suggest giving it a wide birth!
i personally wouldn’t touch it with a barge pole nowadays and i hope no one else has to go thru the adverse affects that it can cause.
peace love and blessings.
be lucky..
Robbie/ Tigga.
just because mephedrone is legal doesn’t mean it is not a very dangerous substance..
it’s possibly a lot more dangereous than many illegal substances.. i know people who are comparing its harmfulness to the likes of heroin and crack!
please be careful.
love and blessings to all.
If no one is smart enough to realize it yet this is pretty much crystal meth lil sis and trust me u dont want this take it from some who said the same things as all yall o its not addictive yea i thought the same things to o i can quit when i want well by the time u decide to quit its already to late.Trust me i dealt meth and did it for 6 years been clean for 4 years now and i dont wanna try this stupid otha shit eitha .Watch to the ppl who want it legal im telling ya na this is meth’s lil sis all the same
SymPtoms and shit to i think it should b legal though so that woodnt have one more drug that the cops are going to be arressting u none addicts for. And o yea if you ever decide to try experimenting with meth or mephedrone which i would highly discourage not to do dont be
A dumb ass andd hitt big ass lines of it at first thats how dumb motha fuckas are all dieing now.and secondly dont hit a big ass line of eitha or and go smoke ya a joint or something after thats a downer cuz if you lit up on eitha of them guess what u mixing an upper and a downer u fucking urself all up thats why its best not to drink with it eitha
I first tried mephedrone at the age of fourteen, intravenously. I will remember the first experience for the rest of my life. In my eyes, the memories are a curse — the beauty behind them causes me pain as mephedrone almost took my life from me. And worse, I wanted it to. At a young, young age, I dropped to my knees and dug my own grave for this drug. I was previously banging coke, but my love for mephedrone far exceeded any other drug I had ever done. Love at first hit, I used to say. Within a week of my first experiment, I had progressed to daily use. I remember being in junior high school at the time. I would go for about a week without sleep, obviously not going to school or doing much of anything else besides mephedrone. However, when I did go to school, I would be shooting mephedrone in the bathroom throughout the day.
My use progressed to multiple grams per day. This is by far the most addictive drug I have come across. I was like a tornado, ripping every aspect of my life to shreds. I truly appreciate Adam’s comment, for 4-Methlymethcathinone shaped my views of myself, of my future, of my desires… Mephedrone shaped ME. I was left empty-handed, empty-minded during laspses of sobriety.
Sometime throughout my years on 4-Methylmethcathinone, my area momentarily went dry. I switched to heroin, which is a drug that I had already been very familiar with — sometimes doing speedballs of mephedrone and heroin (interesting combo). Of course, I became strung on dope and ended up going to detox and soon afterward, rehab. While in rehab, my insanity was still fully intact — writing poetry dedicated to my love for mephedrone. Realizing that I never got my last hit of mephedrone, I left treatment and went home to find the mephedrone supply replenished, which I jumped on.
Mephedrone is so harmful to us, mentally and physically — and please don’t take that lightly. I started using mephedrone at the age of fourteen, as a 5′ 4″ female weighing in at 130 lbs. Within a month or so, I dropped to 100 lbs — and keep in mind that was only the beginning. A few years later, sober from all drugs, I have not grown an inch. I have finally started to grow mentally, but it took time and a lot of fucking help. And Just Jojo, I know what you mean by the “electric shocks.” I can tell you that they do pass… However, like you said, doctors know nothing about this drug and how to treat the convulsions that are a result of withdrawal. When first getting sober, I would have sleep paralysis, watching shadows of demons hovering above and being unable to close my eyes — silently screaming. Then, the convulsions began. I would awake from my dreams — usually a dream where I was shooting mephedrone — and find myself in convulsions. I would be, again, paralyzed and silently screaming for help… The convulsions lasted for days on end, happening multiple times per night. That is, until I flew out of my bed and my roommate called our counselor to call an ambulance. After that night, it never happened again.
If you are interested in 4-Methylmethcathinone, I will tell you that it is in fact a beautiful, eye-opening experience, however, that it the illusion of the drug. I often called mephedrone the ‘Devil’s Candy’ for this exact reason. That first high reels you in and won’t let you go. If you have tried mephedrone, keep in mind that you will never achieve that first high again. Think of it as a memorable experience and move on. From my experience and from my first-hand knowledge of the experiences of loved ones also addicted to this drug, immediately following the first high is a downward spiral. If you are addicted to mephedrone, it is possible to break free – you only have to want it.
As a conclusion, this is the most addictive drug I have come across in my life. Like I said, I am also a recovering heroin addict, but mephedrone was the drug that strangled me. Again, at the young age of fourteen, I was shooting this drug in my middle school bathroom merely days after first trying it. Please note that the route of administration is not an important factor. Whether it is insufflated, taken orally, rectally or intravenously, each route leads to the same high, which leads to addiction. Years later, I am now clean from mephedrone and I have broken out of its grasp. In my early recovery, I often despised myself for ever trying mephedrone, and then I despised myself for all-knowingly using it the second and the third time – leading me to my addiction. And of course, I felt a lot of self-hatred for losing “myself.” I had to realize that we create the people that we are. I am now happy. I now know my true self, instead of the stranger that my mephedrone-induced delusional mind came to think I was.
This drug (a temptress and a murderer) ultimately produces pain, rather than the euphoria discovered upon its first use.
I have a rather strange report if a friend. we were planning to do some drone (after a lengthy break) when he became ill, anyway we decided to go ahead and whilst he was on it his symptoms completely disappeared (high fever, general flu symptoms) anyway today I found out he had measles — which makes me so glad I had my mmr
— long story short I was wondering if this could be to the stimulant properties? I understand mmc has long been made illegal but being a recreational user from when it was legal I’d say the dealers claims it was 90 – 95% pure are accurate. so any ideas why he got better and as soon as he came down developed symptoms again?
Tonight was my second night doing it. Night 1 I was very skeptical so I only snorted tiny doses. Maybe 10-20mg. 8 – 10 hours later, while consistently snorting a little more each time. I only used half a gram and was high forever. Night number two I did one line at about 200mg and an hour later a second line slightly bigger. From what I’ve experienced… BE CAREFUL ! if you get addicted to anything I would stay away from this drug. The high is too good to say no too. I’m barely coming down and I started my first line about 3 and a half hours ago. I enjoy drugs but have fantastic self control and have already planned to tale about 1 gram per month. As for the high… You get the amazingly great feeling from a line of cocaine but rather than a 20 minute high it last forever. As for the comparison to MDMA I’ll agree to an extent. I’ve had an amazing body high that is slightly similar but different enough. Make sure you have time after you do it to sleep. Sleep was hard the first night and I don’t think I’ll be tired anytime soon. Give it a try but please be careful. Anytime I do any drug I do a lot of research before and for new drugs like this I’m always reading about while high. Keeps me content.
Ok a few more things… Smoke shops are selling Mephedrone for between 22 – 28 bucks a gram. There are a lot of people who know how to get it much much cheaper — as the drug becomes more popular, dealers are going to want more profit and will start cutting and they’ll sell it a little cheaper. I’ve seen mephedrone that has been cut and it had a yellowish color to it. Pay attention to what you purchase! Until it becomes illegal I’d recommend buying from a smoke shop. When it does become illegal. Check the color.
It’s been about five hours from the first of 2 hefty hits and I’m feeling almost back to normal. But not quite.
As for the no comedown… Well I did it for the firsttime on Saturday. Tiny doses over a long period. Fr about 11:30 pm to just before 9 AM. I hadn’t eaten and was pretty pale and exhausted. I fprcedmyself to eat half subway sandwich and was ok until about 1pm. From then on I was curled up imbed feeling terrible. I’ve had some pretty bad hangovers and this one is a winner by far. Around 2 pm I noticed my vision was blurring a little. It could’ve been from a lack of sleep, however, I’ve rocked many back to back all nighter while clean, drunk, or other drugs and never had avision probl. It got progressively worse as the night went on. So I’m imbed all day Sunday and I’m exhausted but can’t sleep. I finally fell asleep this morning (Monday) around 7 AM and was wide awake at 10.
Ummm… Another side effect I’ve notice while on (as it’s called in my state — Drone) is severe short term memory loss. I read on wikipedia that this was a side effect but I didn’t expect it to be as serious as it was. I’ve always had a retry sharp mind but.. Well here’s an example put a small bottle ofwate in my pocket, not 30 seconds later I’m I. A frantic search for my water bottle. I’d forget words in the middle of sentences. I’d forget stories that I tell all the time. The more my mind is coming back to normal from round two the less excited I am to do it again. Like I said — if you get addicted to anything I’d seriously stay far away from this.
I’m feeling pretty tired and I’m hoping I can fall asleep. I’ll be back on later today for more info on my experiexe. Hopefully I won’t have a hang over. I’ve forced myself to eat this time around and I’ve had plenty of water.
As for any parent with concerns for your lids I can recommend Spice. Another legal high that I have been using daily for about 6 months. I really haven’t had any bad side effects from using it. I use a retry potent brand and I smoke about a 2 gram joint every night which is a lot more than any of my fellow users usuay do. My friends typically smoke a few small bowls a night and have a good time. Gaahh I keep rambling. So anyway. One post replied to the concerned parent and said to try weed which I agree with but itsstill illegal. You can get relatively potent spice for a decent price. It’s a great high and lasts long enough for anyone to be satisfied. Buy your child a couple grams and try hard to coax him into it as an alternative and eventually, hopefult, he won’t do that either. Drugs for children are a nightmare for any parent. I’m 22 and didn’t start using drugs until I was 19. I’ve experience quote a lot in 3 years and I’ll never regret those experiences.
Well I’ll be back with my hangover chat.
Be safe
Steven ? What country are you in ? Mephedrone has been illegal for a year in my country, Scotland. I’ve never taken it but I’ve had lots of MDMA, speed, cocaine etc.
been illegal here in ireland to,but if you want it you can still get,BUT DONT! its all good doing it,but the side effects on your life you wouldnt notice until someone has to hold you down an tell you to cop the fuck on,never again will i touch drone, i was a heavey user in 2010,an im so glad im not doing it anymore,i wont get into detail but it fuck your life and head up bigtime,end of.…
It will indeed fuck your head up. Its a relationship and life destroyer. I used probably more than most 2009⁄2010 as my brother started dealing it and it was easily obtained, he was probably one of the biggest dealers in Northern Ireland and he made a small fortune which he also blew and has nothing to show for it bar a criminal record and a jail term. Hell it can still be got mail order from Europe into UK even tho its illegal here since 16 April 2010. It was one of the nicest drugs I’ve ever taken but also one of the worst as you just don’t want to stop and can go days on end without sleep just taking and taking the shit. Stay away from it. Just not worth the shit storm that follows.
hey all , read the entire column , GREAT STUFF, from a religious background… i can relate . Im one of the guys that went to private school, ect. The appeal and concern intrigue me. i vowed to never to drugs after i was talked in to smoking pot…by my uncle of all people!lol… i was 15 or 16 my friends tried it i figured what the hell.…anyways im still high from Mephedrone so i will cut the story in half.. the joint my uncle gave me was lace w/ pcp he told me after i smoked one joint. which i didnt know at the time but will really make your head jump time.… the illegal drugs are ok as far as i can tell,not condoning just a pov. i dont recommend them for somebody that has random drug test as i do.…but i think you would agree with me that id society could do anything the wanted as far as drugs there would undoubtedly be 75% of the worlds population , including infants and children under the age of 10 would be doing something…why , do you ask? because it makes you feel good. that being said anyone who reads this knows my p.o.v. ..
that being said i took some rave x bath salts and am experiencing ‚not exactly chest pains, but an un easiness in my chest with the jitters, shaking ect…its been 4 hours and thinking about doin a .25 g snoot to give the wife a valentines day she had since we were 18,lol. just wonderin if the symptoms are serious or if you have had that feeling before . overfiend your advice is appreciated on this topic if you dont mind…you seem like you’ve done more of the stuff than scar face did coke.. and the fact that you have such will power is amazing to me… in all seriousness if you are wanting to experiment try to use this guys approach true role model for people wanting to experiment but not loose their family job and way of life! Sorry for all the die hard readers on the column ‚but im off the charts on this Mephedrone stuff (rave x bath salts) try it with the ladies if you have a girl thats into it you wont regret it. ANy way overfiend … try to read the this message and get the important parts out of it. i will try to be in a right state of mind and not borderline have a anxiety attack,lol…
ok guys sorry about the earlier posts i am coming down now so i can probably, think clearly enough to write more understandable. I was saying before in a better order…less choppy…i experience slight chest “pain” not really the word, but as im not a doctor i can relate to any other feeling…well maybe the first menthol cigarette to get ol faithful pumping in the morning ride into work..almost a buzz / could my blood pressure be through the roof type feeling…which i read was pretty normal but as i said before, i wanted the scientific/doctor like answer from the host , but the users opinion matters just as much if not more… ANy way guys my wife is pregnant and wanting to try this stuff , and i did the mean parent trick and told heck no! seeing as how the drugs it mimics ‚or surpasses in my book cause defects..so until instructed otherwise im gonna stick to the ol cheech and chong of MY SYNTHETIC CHIZ woman.lol Anyway i dont get addicted to drugs easy and i just found out that the state i live in is tryin to ban it like today… when i tried the crap with a friend…who should i say isnt a saint in the drug business but has successfully recovered from the oxy , perks, coke ‚crank , REAL X ( WHICH HE SAYS IS NOT NEARLY AS GOOD AS THE AFORE MENTIONED RAVE X) Sold at most head shops in tristate area, not a sales tactic , i just like to share good things.like that…naughty pleasure in WV SALES IT FOR 38 dollars , where the others are 60, doesnt matter if its blu magic which im convinced i could let my son who is even went through the ol change’ take a drag of and he would go to sleep like me the first time i did two grams of that brand my buddy was whacked out and i was nodding in and out…now that next step up is nwg, naked white girl..or just white girl around here .. that made feel like getting on here and typing on this blog all night…like sooo..but the best that ive had again ONLY FOR PEOPLE WHO HAS EXPERIENCE WITH DRUGS ENOUGH TO KNOW THEIR TOLERANCE LEVEL is RAVE X m better than x by my drugged out friends.. and will give you the urge to find something circular and well you get the point and it will give you energy like you havent had since you were 15 and it was your first time.……anyways im getting a bit chatty … and boardlerline sharing tmi w/ u all…like i said coming down not all the way down.…its been5.5 to 6 hours still jittery MAJORLY, but feel happy and still “randy” .again anyone thats tried this let me know how long to expect until im normal ‚because my boss can see someone comin to work on a red bull buzz and ask em if they been doin something that they shouldnt…a lil job scared… let me kno … prolly call in tomorrow anyway, never get to do that…hey what do you kno mom and dad possibly a good thing for you to do in moderation to relax and call off for a day.…might feel good 2 or three times a year.….
My only problem with telling people NOT to touch mephedrone, is that these people are assuming that everyone has poor impulse control.I see nothing wrong with responsible, ADULT use of mind altering substances.In the case of meph-1 250 mg bomb, once or twice a week, will not turn you into a 5g a dose IV’ing monster.The kind of personality type that will horribly abuse 4mmc, would probably eventually ruin themselves with some other type of compulsive behavior.Bear in mind I’m talking about adult use here.Now kids are a different story altogether.I am firmly against minors using any mind altering substance.But I’m also a realist, and was once a kid.Now let me ask you: would you rather your little blue eyed daughter going to the gas-n-gulp for her little drug experiments? Or would you rather her hanging out at some drug dealers house? I am a parent, and my answer is neither.If I think…no…feel like my kid is up to something, I interrogate.I’ll investigate until I’m satisfied with my conclusion.I dont imagine it would be difficult to notice that my child’s behavior is erratic.And dont get me wrong, my heart goes out to the families of the kids that are hurting themselves with this life style.But I feel the problem can be more properly addressed, if parents and law enforcement confronted these shop owners directly, instead of waiting for their appointed leaders to ban the substance, and push it underground.Where undoubtedly the substance will become even more of a menace to society.If your kids are buying a legal, mind altering substance, it’s up to us as parents to stop them.Way too much passive parenting going on today.When I was 15 – 16 years old, I had a 9:00 curfew.If I didnt make the curfew, the consequences were severe.I see kids younger than that roaming the streets all hours of the night.Mephedrone abuse is a symptom of alot of other societal ills that need to be addressed.
re: anxious parent My sympathies, you seem like a genuinely nice person, and being a parent I have empathy.I couldnt help but notice that the ultimatum you were going to present to your boy: stop doing drugs or we’ll take away your “stuff”.Well the fact that you’ve undeniably confirmed that he has a problem, and is currently suffering the psychological illness associated with 4MMC over-use, you should definitely go a step further than that.And not to be insulting, but coming from a” place of love “, does not compute with an individual that has a severe dependancy issue.I dont think that freedom restriction alone will cut it.My advice is to get the poor kid to a psychiatrist, and get him evaluated.If theres a chemical imbalance, it can be corrected with the proper health care.And what my crazy ass would do, is find out exactly which establishment the boy is buying the stuff, and have a little talk with the owner.But I think that maybe rounding up a few more concerned parents, and in a passive manner you could protest these establishments.Attack the sources in a direct, yet legal and peaceful manner.We all know how the media loves a concerned parent gathering.Maybe by drawing media attention to these establishments-i.e.- the major gas station chains, then maybe they’ll send out a memo to the franchisers to stop selling cheap, overpriced, cut with god knows what meph.They did the same thing with ephedrine.You used to be able to get that shit everywhere at one point.And any asshole with a little ambition, and access to a home depot, could whip up some dirty speed. Enough people became vocal about it, and now maybe 1 in every 50 convenience stores,around here it’s 7 – 11, carry the stuff.And you need to have your I.D. xeroxed, and placed into an “ephedrine purchase log”.Thereby making rampant abuse a real pain in the ass.But at the same time, adults who want to use responsibly can.And at a limit of 30 pills per customer per month, responsibility is kinda forced on the individual.Some folks need that.But stay strong, and best wishes. peace
Not to be disrespectful but I think with all parents you should start at the beginning with your children. Sit down and talk openly and honestly about why they do the drugs they do. often because of love, panic, fear and media parents look for somewhere to place blame for their kids going off the rails, becoming depressed, aggressive, withdrawn etc. easy solution blame drugs, influential freinds, music, media and so on. Through both personal and work experience I have seen and come to be strong believer in drug addiction starting in a lot of people because they already suffered depression or had bad experiences they wanted to forget, felt lack of confidence, experienced bullying, were in search for who they were. They all go hand in hand but it is important to remember it is not always the drugs that cause the problem sometimes the problems are there and that is why the individuals turn to drugs. It is unlikely that you will become an aolcoholic from being a perfectly well balanced, happy and fulfilled undividual. Something will usually cause you to turn to alcohol and from there the dependance will develop and the depression or whatever problem will be compounded. Societies views on drugs are understandable but I am sure we would get a lot further in protecting ourselves and our children if we were to go back to the root of the problem “why do people take drugs in the first place”? Why do so many people in society feel unable to relax without the aid of substances? Why every weekend after work do so many want to go to the pub and destroy themselves with the most toxic, soul destroying, society destructive drug of all alcohol. Alcohol may be legal but it will rip families apart, turn people into liars, costs the nhs millions, costs the criminal services millions, kill people, turn them into violent animals and say things they wouldnt dream of when in control sober. Why is there no more outcry about pub landlords and bar staff who when you simplify it (very simple i know) knowingly sere a substance that potentially kills. everything in moderation as I said. Food kills when people over eat but that would never been banned or policed, Exercise also can be so very damaging when tken to extremes. Education is the key. Educate on the dangers of things, talk openly and without pre-judgment this will be the way o save your children from harm. Give them the strength of character to believe in their own decisions and love themselves enough that they would never want to cause harm to themselves. Sex education used to be taboo becuase people thought it would encourage kids to have sex, it was not the case. Kids will have sex anyway, education is harm reduction. Heroin addicts will inject, informing them of the safe ways to do so does not encourage needle use but simply prevents unecessary harm like vein collapse and proiding clean needles prevents spread of disease. I will always remeber when asked to write an essay on smacking children in order to get into my college course my view was not very well received by some as i wrote that i believed a parent should have the right to smack their child. As you can imagine this did not go down well, but hear me out. I was smacked as a child when misbehaving and this gave me the ability to associate doing something wrong with a consequence, this what is lacking in society today. stopping parents from smacking children by making a law does not protect them. The people who were going to abuse their children by beating them or using excessive force are the people who will not abide by this law anyway and so will still abuse and beat their kids, all the law did was take away the right for all other reasonable parents to discipline their children with a knowingly effective method. You cannot deny that the youth of today are out of control and have so many rights that they know there is very little we can do to stop them. Sorry i have gone off course here. All i was trying to say is that drugs are not always the source of the problem but something that will go alongside an already present problem, banning everything out of fear will only make the problems worse by pushing them underground, then causing them to be illegal turning would be people that would never dream of committing a crime into criminals for wanting to do something that they enjoy sometimes. The drugs then when made illegal and underground become even more dangerous because of the things they are cut with, purity will never be guaranteed. Mephedrone like MDMA in moderation should cause no harm and I do not feel is phsically addictive. Mentally addictive yes when being used for the wrong reasons, not for enjoyment, this is where you should look int the reasons for why the person is taking it. Again also because of the availability when legal that made it so easy to get people with no will power lost control, and the legal status didnt make them see anything wrong with taking it on a daily basis, after all you can smoke cigarettes or drink a pint everyday and society will not judge because it is legal even though known to kill.
I feel the mdma (mephedrone) Should stay leagle but even doctors can give you drugs worse than this and we dont even know what plant or what ever the shit thay give us is. But you safe tips r good. People that have had coke addiction i know do this every once in a while in small doses very small lines but we get 500 mg. n it last a very long time. I’d like to know if it would be safe to use in pregant women when sold as a bath salt in low doses to just help relax her and open her poors because this baby is giveing her acne and i tell her she is beautiful but she dont see what i do. n just think it could help if it is all natural.
this drug can be addicting. use in moderation. not no more than maby once every outher month. If you do it all the time the fun and usefulness is gone because than u depend on it like any thing else.
this stuff is rocket fuel very bad„ 20g a month when i was doing it i’d do 28g in a couple days if that , this was pure as well :S