I don’t know how much people outside “the industry” have heard about mephedrone, but by all accounts, it’s exploded in popularity over the past few months. In the last three months, there’s been at least 50 news stories reposted to Drugs-Forum on the topic, and probably quite a few more that haven’t been picked up. We’ve got reports of teens dying, 11 year olds taking the stuff and a guy ripping his balls off — all the classic examples of the media whipping up an unnecessary (and untrue) shit storm. I’ve also read lots of anecdotes about the drug’s prevalence among students, friendship groups and even dealers of illegal drugs (points for diversification!). Since my articles on JWH-018 have been reasonably popular and stimulated some interesting discussion, I felt it was about time we gave mephedrone the same treatment.
The Basics
Mephedrone is not only cheap and legal, but it’s also incredibly effective. It’s a short-acting stimulant that feels something like a mixture of cocaine and ecstasy. If that wasn’t enough to explain its popularity, then the icing on the cake is the almost complete lack of a comedown the next day when used in moderation. Purities of over 99% make another great selling point when compared with similar illegal drugs.
Mephedrone is a white, crystalline powder with little to no smell. The term “Mephedrone” comes from methyl–ephedrone, describing the chemical structure. Other names for it include:
- 4-MethylMethCathinone (methcathinone is another name for ephedrone)
- 4-MMC
- 4-MMCAT
- MCAT (This is incorrect, but people use it anyway)
- Meow
- Bubbles (seems to be a brand name for capsules containing it and methylone, another research chemical)
Effects include an initial euphoria, which tapers off to a milder stimulation. Mephedrone does seem to oil social situations rather well and get everyone talking, laughing and having a good time, especially during the initial euphoria. Several users have compared it to cocaine, but some how less jittery and “arrogant”, while others will compare it to a more rushy ecstasy (which has to be a good thing, given the current state of the MDMA market). Actually, the effects seem to depend very much on dose and your chosen route of administration.
The most common ways to get this stuff into your blood are snorting it and eating it. As you can probably imagine, eating it will give a longer, less intense experience, while doing lines of it will give a much shorter, more intense buzz and make you want to keep taking it, but we’ll get to that later. Oh, I should probably mention that snorting it feels not too dissimilar from being raped in the sinuses by a Portuguese Man o’ War, particularly for your first line.
Other reported methods of administration include shoving it up your arse, requiring less than an oral dose and peaking somewhere between an oral or insufflated dose, and intravenously injecting it, which apparently isn’t that great, having a similar effect profile to being snorted with a million times the risk.
Dosage
A single oral dose would typically be between 150 mg and 300 mg, while lines can range from 50 mg to a monster 150 mg rail.
Pharmacology
If only we knew! Unfortunately, no one knows anything for certain, so we’re forced to do a bit of guesswork. If it feels like a cross between MDMA and cocaine, then we can assume that there’s some serotonin and dopamine involvement. The apparent addictiveness of mephedrone (more on that later, srsly), along with talkativeness also points to dopamine pathways, while the similarity of some side effects compared with serotonin depletion (taking too much MDMA or abruptly discontinuing selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors [SSRIs]) points to the serotonin pathways.
I would love some more information on this, so if you ever come across anything in the future, please report back!
Misconceptions
There are a number of misconceptions surrounding mephedrone, which we should clear up:
Legal does not mean safe
While it seems that users can take vast quantities of the stuff and still function, we don’t know what the long term effects of mephedrone use will entail. A handful of people have died from taking it too. While the number is tiny compared with alcohol, it’s still always a good thing to remember.
Purity isn’t necessarily accurate
Mephedrone bought online will certainly be purer than illegal drugs bought on the street, but claims of 99.9% purity may not be true. Since it’s not sold for human consumption (like everything legal and fun), I’m not sure an accurate purity measure is required. Also, that 0.01% could be some deadly poison. It probably won’t be, but it might!
“Plant Food” might not be mephedrone
Lots of those news stories I’ve mentioned above have listed a million different “street names” for this drug, including “Plant Food”. No one is actually calling it plant food, it’s just how it, and lots of other compounds like it, are sold. If you’ve obtained anything psychoactive packaged as plant food, make sure you know what the hell it is you’re taking!
Side Effects
Side effects can be many and varied, some serious and some not. Mephedrone shares a number of the typical side effects you’d expect to find with any stimulant, such as:
- Increased heart rate (tachycardia)
- Raised blood pressure (hypertension)
- Not wanting to sleep (insomnia)
- Not wanting to eat (anorexia)
- Chewing/grinding teeth (bruxism)
- Moving your eyes loads (nystagmus)
More mephedrone-specific, and so perhaps more serious side effects include
- Turning blue at the extremities & feeling cold (vasoconstriction)
- Pains in the chest, throat and nose
- Nosebleeds when snorted, especially with prolonged or frequent use
The more you use, the more the side effects become apparent and the initial pleasant effects diminish. Also, significant evidence is coming forward suggesting circulation issues are not just vasoconstriction, but something more serious — autoimmune vasculitis, where the immune system attacks your own body. This would seem to account for some of the odd and infrequent side effects, such as bruising or turning blue at the joints. Current reports suggest that this isn’t an issue of a dodgy supply for some people compared with the rest, but rather a small percentage of the population are at risk, probably because of some genetic differences. If you’ve noticed this, stop taking mephedrone! This condition will only get worse the more you consume. Add to that the usual stimulant-induced vasoconstriction, and you could find yourself with some serious problems.
Warning
Mephedrone can be addictive!
- It’s easy to have several large sessions per week because of the cheapness and lack of comedown. Several people have reported taking over 20g per month.
- It’s easy to keep taking it, especially when snorted, so a single line can turn into 5g session easily if you lack self control. There have been a few reports of people taking 5-7g over a 48 hour long single session.
- Tolerance can also develop, so more is required for the same effect.
Safe Usage Tips
Mephedrone is not 100% safe, but then again, nothing is. To make sure you’re as safe as possible, here are a few tips:
- Don’t buy it in bulk — 80% of people won’t be able to resist the charms of a massive bag of the stuff. Sure, you may save a few quid on the gram, but if your consumption sky-rockets, you’re not saving anything.
- If you do buy in bulk, limit yourself — it’s all too easy to “just have one more line”, so perhaps let your friend look after your supply for you, or if you’re going out, take a predetermined quantity out with you and stick to it.
- Don’t snort it if you think there’s any chance you will become addicted to it — this route of administration makes you want to keep on taking it much more than an oral dose, despite the snotty nose and watering eyes.
- Eat healthily before and after — your body needs a good supply of nutrients, vitamins, etc to stay healthy and replenish your neurotransmitters. Forcing yourself to eat, especially during long binges, is essential. At least munch some vitamin tablets or something.
- Take some magnesium supplements — this helps relax your muscles and stop all the jaw clenching and chewing that goes with most stimulants.
- If you’re going to snort it, blow your nose soon after to clear out any powder — drugs aren’t absorbed from your nostrils, so you want to get rid of it. I’d also suggest giving your nose a wash with either a spray bottle and some water, or by cramming some wet tissue up there with your head tilted back.
mephadrone is not mdma!! stay away from this shit,fucks u up..dont give to a pregnant women,thats just stupid :S this stuff fucks your mind up,deletes memory,makes u paro and so on,STAY AWAY
My fiancé took this bath salt crap and freaked the fuck out. He was dillusional, paranoid, and hallusinated. He was talking to people that werent there. He made up a dillusion that was screwing someone else. Knocked on all the neighbors doors and asked if they had information about me. he wrecked his grandpa car. wanted to fight his aunt. The cops put handcuffs on him and admitted him into the hospital. He had bad dehydration and had to have fluids pumped into him. They let him out and he came home to tortore me some more. Thinking there was som,eone in the house. He absolutely insane. I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND THIS TO MY WORST ENEMY!!!!!! I took me and my kids out of that situation. If we satyed who knows what he wouldve done to us.
This was drug was made but EVIL!!!!!
Its better and stronger then anything out there.
The it takes days to come down an the lack of sleep
leads to crazy thoughts and sightings
Might be worth noting that a lot of people are taking what they believe is 4-MMC (mephedrone) and its is actually something quite different. Since made illegal in UK last year I have come across drugs on many occasions claiming to be meph but that are completely different compounds. At best a small amount of 4-MMC that has been cut with God knows what.
i think its aload of rubbish how people are saying that it isn’t dangerouse as ie had a few bad experiences„ ive recently had a baby so i stopped taking it for about 14 month as i was pregnant obviousley lol.…but anyway b4 i had my little girl nd found out i was pregnant i was bad on the drug me and my friend would sit in my flat for about a week taking this drug not een realising the days were going by we would think it was still the same day as when we had started the sessions. a couple of my friends did not have any side effects while a few did including myself„ there was some people that would hallusinate of it ranging rite up to people having fits of it 1 of them people being me i have now had two critical fits off of it and this is no lie the irst and second time i nearly died i also lost my memory of a few things including remembering who my partner also my babys father was.……i also used to twitch„„ enough to make me all over it is not a safe drug!!!!!!!! so who ever is reading this now if you hae not tried the drug and are thinking about it i strongly advise you DONT TOUCH IT!!! dont even asociate with people who is taking it because trust me you WILL end up trying it and like it says above if your sniffing it u will more than likely keep taking it as it is verry addictie and hard to stop.……im not been a hipocrit as i have done this but im trying to advise you id stick to coke and pills their dangerouse but alot safer than this.…also me and my partner have both had lethal chest and heart pains since stopping taking this shiteee just a word of advise stay well away coz no matter what ya have read up there it is DANGEROUSE and ILLEGAL now as it has killed allooootttt of people my baby has changed my opinion about taking this as b4 i had her i was bang on it i mean me n my friends were going through approx like 20gram in 2 nites and still taking more or about another 3 – 4 days n nites nott good im supprised im not dead haa any way oer and out!!!!!!!!!!! p.s really think about what ive said if ya got people to stick around for dont take it pleaseeeeee.…thanks for reading.
i agree with the last couple of people up there it is crazyy shit.…i have tripped off it loadsa time and got so paranoid nearly chinned ma best mate coz i convinced ma sen she had slept with my fiancé.…i would take the piss out of my close friends so much to make them cry also i wouls smash my house up and be a total nob head to my partner to the extent of throwin glasses and plates at him even self harmming i really lost the plot and i dragged my sel out o that hole ans sorted my head out i did loose my memory of who people were and what they were doing in my house and stuff it is fuking the devils drug!!!!!
These rants about the dangers of mephedrione are extremely boring and miss the whole point of this site which us about harm reduction.
If you are sooo stupid and undisciplined as to take any drugs to excess when you are pregnant or have personal problems or an addictive personality you are gonna get fucked up.…ban this one or ban that one.…. a moron will find something else or mebbe alcohol or junk food or whatever to destroy their health!
If you are gonna leave illiterate comments at least read the great advice on this site first
I seldom leave comment on sites about my recreational activities, but having read some of the other comments I simply have to.
If this were any other important topic would you take advice from people above based on their spelling and grammar?
I have taken Mephedrone and loved it, but it’s like many things. Obsessive people will obsess on it, idiots will do stupid things on it and sensible people will be sensible about it. I don’t down a bottle of whiskey and then blame alcohol if I have an accident! To stay up for days without sleep on it and think it’s a hallucinogen does say something about you. Lack of sleep will do that too you. It’s like blaming your car for bad cornering but you were going 200mph or using sharp knives when you are drunk. It’s not the knives fault you were being an idiot. People like this give fuel to the media and spoil it for everyone, including themselves, because people who have never taken anything think that some substances can make a person do anything when in actual fact those types of people would do the same things sober given half a chance.
I have taken many types of drugs hundreds of times with many friends, I’m almost middle aged, have three houses and a Porsche. DRUGS DO NOT RUIN PEOPLES LIVES, take some responsibility for your life!
I’m not saying there are no risks, there are, just like driving or the shops or taking flu medicine, I’d bet most of these narcotics have been ‘tested’ by many more people than any drug trails every Saturday night.
Or don’t listen to me, take advice from some of the above people who can’t even spell.
Real good definitions, I’m on it now and it’s pretty accurate. Just a question, why does my knob shrivel like on MDMA. I wanna bone a lass later but I’m not sure I could lol
No matter, Viagra to the rescue haha
methedrone also known as bubble is a horrible drug. its horrible going up your nose it burns, it tastes horrible, you want more and more, causes alot of arguements after being on it for a while 12 hours — 24 hours. i would advise people not to touch it as it has ruined alot of things for me
very very very true..
its now illegal under class B drug..
i used to take this… its very addictive and after your first line u crave more…u soon notice ur money going down even tho it is cheap.. banging 5 – 10 G per night between 2 of us
then ringing the dealer for more.. having our last lines at 6 in the morning.. very bad indeed.. the only thing i didnt agree with was tht the article says lack of comedown… there is a big come down… u feel very chatty.. when it starts wearing off make sure u are with someone cus u will go on a downer.
Hi, I have taken alot of drugs over the years and was given 1g of methadrone. Now i used to smoke speed and i have smoked ice can i smoke methadrone? will the effects be the same as snorting or orally taking it?
if someone with bluing of the limbs (vasoconstriction) when they stop mephedrone will they be permanently damaged??
or will they gradually recover normal health??
On my daughter face book wall some guy has fitted on the stuff, they all thought he was going to die yet not one called for an ambulance, now he is said according to her wall to be sleeping it off, however he is unable to move. Does this mean he is paralized? Can m-kat cause this. Someone commented they lost their lad to m-kat, he died. Now I dont know if this guy they speak of needs an ambulance. If he didnt come out of the fit, and he died, what would his drug taking companions do? Leave his flat so he would be discovered dead eventually? There is no safe in taking drugs, sorry, there is not. Surely to magnify the dangers and the fact this drug has already been responsible for deaths in UK and other countries proves this.
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people should not use it because it is bad for you and i have had 3 people that i was close to die from it so sont do it it will ruin your loved ones lifes
This drug is fairly intense i’m not going to lie. How it works is — it emptys the holder of endorphines in your body (this is why you feel so happy) it can take up to 3 months for all these endorphines to be replaced thats why it can cause depression. It’s proven to be more addictive than crack but easier to get off (obviously) i’ve just started doing it and love it ! I do hate somethings about it though for example, when you’ve run out you feel like crap and all you can think about is getting more. Also as you do more of it in one session it gets harder to actually absorb it for example on thursday i took 4 grams and at about 3 am i picked up another gram but because of how fucked up my nose was it was quite bleak. To finsh off i do really like this drug it’s deffinatly something to try it’s like a cheap Mdma for £20 a gram you can’t really go wrong. Although i have stopped doing it for a while due to it’s highly addictive features.
All my familys at a funeral today — after a really cool guy started taking this — He killed his dad and strangled his mum (she survived)- now hes in an instituion — DONT USE.
I am a 22 year old female student in the summer of 2010 went to Ibiza for 4 months and tried drugs for the 1st time: pills, coke, ket and this meow! I took meow for 2 months solid whilst there personally i enjoyed the buzz it gave me and i thought the high i got was better than that of cocaine and found it safer than mdma which sent me crazy! So whilst in ibiza I was going through 1-2g a day of meow a day and taken it for days on end i wasn’t eating or sleeping for days and yeah i was chatty but could still work fine when on it (i worked in a night club) i just seemed happy, alert and quick to others but people started to think i was going a little crazy. I did start to feel a bit strange on it and freak out a bit but that’s from lack of sleep and i was taken it every day for weeks! I would be on 3 day benders attending parties and meeting people but would forgot were i had been, forget the characters names and what they looked like even though i had spent the last 24 hours or so in their company! Toward the end of this 2 month binge i did have one occasion i felt paralysed were i was trying to speak and move and i couldn’t however this only lasted for 2 minutes. When i came off the drug at the end of august 2010 i had nightmares for a while but was able to stay of it although i did miss the hit. I will also say that i suffered chest pains and the mini spoon i used to snort the meow form rusted.….it rusted metal so it made me wonder what the fuck it was doing to my insides!!! Its also probarly me worth mentioning that i never really had comedowns after 4 day benders but maybe because i would be either a, spending 24hours a sleep after been awake for days or b, because i was in company who were also taking it and therefore chatting and on the same level as everyone else. However the few comedowns’ i did have were horrendous. The first was when i was with a group of friends and i felt like i had hit a brick wall and i couldn’t get any higher we were al taking it at the beach and i didn’t want to do it in front of strangers around me so had to leave and go home immediately i was freaking the fuck out. i felt paranoid and lost. The second time was when i couldn’t get in touch with my friends when I was on a buzz so spent 2 whole days in my own room crying about nothing. HORRIFIC IT WAS!
I never had the stuff for a whole year and just recently, well 2 weeks ago bought 2g which gave me 4 nights out’s worth! Like any drug it’s addictive and sure there will be side effects but in moderation i think it’s okay in moderation it can be good. When am out i know exactly what is going on around me, i seem alert and sober even though without it with that amount of alcohol i consume i would be very drunk but when i take the drug i do feel awake and am nice to everyone and not my usual drunk aggressive self. When it comes to 3am am not ready for bed so u do need someone to chat with or you get the downer. I Have not had any since the weekend and feel no need for it however if i am going on a night out i will take a few lines. With anything it is bad for u when you over do it now that goes for drugs, alcohol, smoking exercise ANYTHING! For those with a addictive personalities it would not be a good idea to take i have fell self-control now unlike i did in Ibiza and its my personal drug choice. I myself like i said is doing a business degree have a part-time job in the fashion sector and have lots of friends some who do take drugs and some that don’t but the ones that don’t i have no intensions of introducing them to drugs!
thats all just read all these posts and thought i would have my say!
Does anyone have any further information on the vasculitis issue? I developed it in january and you would not behin to beliebe the hell I am in. I.am not responding to treatments. Have been on prednisone for 10 months.My doctor is talking of chemotherapy now. Does it ever stop? Help please
I have the proof that mkat causes colds flus chest infections etc… I started taking mkat in feb last year. I took it regularly and became addicted to it fairly quickly. I took it right up until the first week of june and I wanted it all the time. I started taking more and more to get the same high. By may my body was ruined. I dropped a stone I did not eat, my body was covered in bruises by this point and I had a chest infection– coughing up mucas and finding it hard to draw breath… I was signed off by my doctor for 2 weeks from work in june 2010 to come off mkat which he said was one of the nastiness drugs he had evver dealt with… He told me to keep smoking pot even though my chest was so bad because otherwise my anxiety levels would rise… See I’ve talked about the physical effects… The mental effects were overwhelming. No motivation, selfish, desperate and “easy going” I was an oxymoran in myself… Anyway it took me two weeks off at the end of june to come off mkat… Unfotunately that’s not the end for me. 4 weeks ago I started taking mkat again. Now my throat feels like it has been split all the way down, like an open wound. My chest is so bad that its 4am and I have been awwake for 2 hours coughing up mucas. I have lost a stone in 3 weeks. I wanted to take it all the time until 2 days ago I seriously realised if I did not stop I would actually die. I am not exaggerating. My body has never felt so weak. See mkat starts as a bit of fun but you cannot control your desire for it. It will control you and it will take you over if you have any problems with substance abuse what so ever. If you can’t get through the day without a cig — DO NOT TAKE THIS DRUG. If you have ANY problems with addiction you are risking your life. My friends won’t take me seriously — then again a lot of them didn’t see how bad I was last year. And I think a lot of them are getting hooked too… I am considering leaving my home if I cannot get past this, because I am 26 years old and I want to make it to 30. Scoff all you want, think you are stronger than me — but I have taken drugs– class a’s — for nearly 12 years — sometimes for weeks on end… And I have never ever been so ill. Never. So just look after yourselves — surely there’s more beauty in the world than a few lines of what is essentially toxic glass which will rip you apart… The saddest thing for me is reading and hearing comments like “if you a re too stupid not to be able to control your addiction…” Forgive me for pointing out that you cannot control addiction. It controls you… One minute you think you are having the time of your life and the next thing you know you will look up and realise you don’t recognise anyone around you anymore. This drug is fast acting and it scares me. Please don’t scorn people for admitting they have a problem. Or you might find yourself alone when you wake up in the middle of the night bleeding from the throat… Over dramatic? Try being me for a day at the moment. You will quickly change your mind. I am not weak. I am 26 I own my own house I live alone — hell I have for years — I am a girl who keeps up with all the lads… I am not weak. I am addicted. And strong enough to admit it. So if you have been smashing this drug and you are feeling ill, mentally or physically — do not be scared to admit you need help… Beacuse the truth is? Addiction makes you want to convince people you are ok… It makes you defensive about your drug of choice and your clean friends will notice… Your friends who are mixed up in this will not — carry on the good times right? Nah be strong. Be who you are. Not what mkat makes you. Good luck to anyone that reads this and understands what I mean. Find a focus and better yourself — because that is true strength. I AM NOT WHAT YOU SAY I AM.
A lot has got to do with how sensitive you are to these things, i love cat but my one friend cant take it at all makes her feel all emotionally unstable and messed up, god knows why we react so difference to it.. Its very mild and works out very quickly. Don’t struggle to sleep at all so to me its perfect to party on, just pity you can never get high on it„, Think i just unfortunately have high drug resistance.
Finally, a real view for the population who are judging Mcat without knowing anything but what was said in a newspaper, yes, it can be dangerous, but in very, very rare cases, alcohol however kills what… 260,000 people a year, you just dont hear about it in the news… thank you!
Pls forgive me but I have to comment as I am a regular user of mcat.
I am 27 and have been taking mcat non stop for 11 months at weekends, some sessions can end up turning in to days and before I know it me n me mates have done like 7grams of it.… Every time I do mcat I get colds ace all over and get come down 10 times worse then on xtc… Come down ie cold mood swings can drag on till following weekend.
The reason I came across this site is cause I feel I need help and to share that this drug can fuk u up not only body mind etc but also u can lose things important to u such as friends fam and jobs… I got my job 4 months ago and have had a cold every week my work place will soon catch on as no one has a cold for 4 months.
Anyway I am now on come down, but I keep getting pain in my lower belly just above my pubic line it feels like I twisted my muscles etc but this ain’t the 1st time I had this after mcat, I nearly passed out yesterday.
I feel dependent on this drug cause it’s took the place of coke pills ket n every thing else I took which is not now says easy to get ya hands on, yes this drug is cheaper but side effect r showing. Help ya self before its to late, by reading comments on here I have worked out this drug is taking ova my life in more ways then I knew, next stop for me is doctors.
Pls don’t abuse mcat or any drug u always pay later on.
mephadrone is not mdma!! stay away from this shit,fucks u up..dont give to a pregnant women
my god I really cant believe what I’ve just read!
I lost the most precious thing in my life to that crap and people are still obviously taking it 2 years down the line. They really need to get a grip and realise what there family’s would go through if anything bad was to happen to them.
Ive taken it for nearly two years, but usually half a gram would last me all night. Its a nice buzz to have when drinking, and you dont feel tired so quickly. Aslong as you eat healthy, exercise and take in moderate i dont think it feels that bad. But it does smell like piss, hurt your nose and the come downs can be bad if you have a lack of sleep.
Not sure if ive tried this stuff, but ive done some bath-salts which seems to have similar effects:
55%MDMA/Emphatogen
15%Coke/selfconfidence
30% Energy
+an extremely small penis, LOL!
+a feeling of extreme weakness after overusing it, and not eating, etc…
In the start i did it excessively, and i got very skinny, and felt weaker than anytime before. THIS WAS MY OWN FAULT! I did too much of it, in combination with not eating (ive not had my breakfast yet 3 hours after waking, and i am starting to feel weak, so i consider this normal effects of not eating…), drinking, or sleeping, even close to as much as i should… What is written above about eating is a VERY good advice, and i would add sleeping to this.
After i got so weak, i gained some respect for it, and realized i had to start sleeping every night, and wait until i had eaten, and had been awake for at least a couple of hours (preferably 4-6hours) before i did any lines. After this i NEVER got this feeling of weakness again — even if i did it pretty much every day for probably 2months…
Its the best drug ive had, maybe with the exception of mushrooms. It have learnt me alot about love, and all that shit…
But it also fucked me up worse than ive been ever before — when i didnt have the COMMON SENSE TO EAT AND SLEEP… Everyone doing this should notice/realize that if they kept on doing it without eating and sleeping, they only use a LOT more, only to be f***ed up..! And this is not why people use it. Its just to face the facts. You need food and sleep, and if you use it too much, youll loose the good effects! So why would anyone who knows this keep on running up against the wall time and time again? Sooner or later people will learn that there is a wall there…
I also noticed that if i didnt eat, i came to a point where i didnt really want food, but if i had my meals like usual, the food was just as tasty as always. When it comes to sleeping, i would usually need an hour or 2 (depending on how tired i would normally be) before going to bed, but nothing like the long awake nights after amphetamines. I HATE amphetamines!!!
When ive run out ive never felt any real comedown, or craving for it thats worth mentioning. You always want something that you like, but i didnt have any physical withdrawl-symptoms what so ever.
That said, i smoked weed for 10 yrs — before i quit — and may have developed some self-control, and an attitude against wasting half my life waiting for someone to come home so i could buy something… Its no use going around worrying about running out. People who do this will think it is horrible. Ive learned to just accept that ive used it for some period of time, and need a break. Just enjoy your life, and do something else. This would probably not work very well for heroin addicts, but it works a charm for the bath-salts ive had. My friend who dont have this attitude, keep thinking about running out, start getting “desperate”, and have a bad time. He uses what he has got until he runs out. I use what ive got when i want it. If i have something i need to do, i understand that its better to wait, than to sit with family, or in some sober meeting, with dilated pupils, and worrying if they will notice, LOL!
I did the bath-salts for 2 months because i bought a nice amount in the first place, not because i ordered more and more. Then i read it was addictive like coke… But when i ran out, it was not even close to stopping smoking weed. 1month after this, i ordered another nice amount, and one day, i just didnt feel like doing it, so i stopped for 5-7days while i still had enough left for a couple of weeks. I could NEVER do this when i was smoking weed, or with anything else that ive tried — except mushrooms, but nobody does mushrooms everyday, lol!
I like this stuff a lot, but i am well aware of the problems when one dont take any precautions. I went to the doctors office after i felt so insanely weak and looked like a very skinny heroin-addict, almost 10 yrs older than i am (it was f***in scary!), but luckily they didnt have time for me that day, and after i started eating again, i slowly got back to normal.
If you are not going to eat, drink and sleep, then dont do it at all, because youll f*** yourself up. And some moderation is always a good idea, but youll learn your own limits by yourself anyway. Just dont push over it and go around blaming it all on some drug that other more responsible people enjoy safely…
Oh, and i should probably repeat, that im not sure it was Mephedrone i had. Ive had several bath-salts, and especially 1 was worse than the others…
Ive been addicted ive sold it everything you name it but looking at the comments above i can relate to alot especialy the parilised situation its the worst felling but it dosent last long also ive sniffed stupid amounts because im able to get bigs so after a weekend id have done about 2oz or more its vile but your body just takes it im 18 but ive noticed it takes your muscles away its a vile but nice drug
Since my previous comment my life has become hell thanks to this drug ! I used to be so niave and think it was cool to just go out and get onit with the boys, since my previous comment i started selling it to friends but due to the addictive nature of it all i ended up doing was snorting all of it and getting in debt. This stuff fucks your head trust me ! My best friend snaked my up for M-cat and owes me 90 pounds now and we no longer talk it upset me beyond belief. My entire family resent me and now think of me as an addict, i have lost contact with my sister her boyfriend and my little nephew Jake who i loved more than anything else in the world. So too all you people who think this is a cool thing to do & think life is a party stop now before it gets outta’ control and you end up like me ! I’ve had some mad nights on it & the memories will always stay with me but it isn’t worth the reprecusions so please for your own sakes listen to me ! I’m only 17 and this shit has fucked me up possibly for life.
I’ve done alot of drugs.. and mephedrone in my opinion is one of the strongest out there. I did it for 2 months and well over 20 grams, hanging out with some friends. For me it was pretty easy to start liking it.. but it i quite a evil drug. But now, almost two years later, I would say if you can do it in a more moderate way, it could be safe. But being young and stupid…
Been doing some MDMA and mephedrone is sure comparable with that. I would say mephedrone is is more rushy though and (is more bad for your body). So I highly recommend MDMA before mephedrone, even though it feels a little weaker, but in the end, nicer to your body and mind.
Be safe.
see i use this drug often, almost every weekend. i dont trust the drug because no research has been done on it. i prefer mdma because i know the risks and what its doing to me. but all your examples of experiences on mkat sound fuckin stupid! ive never had any of these effects and niether have my mates. everytime is brilliant and yes its addictive but comon people wheres your fuckin willpower!… if i was you id make sure your taking the right thing because its pretty obvious your taking some other more harmfull drug thats being sold as mkat. only buy the shit if you can trust who its off… why risk your life even more???
I’m 17, i’ve been smoking weed basicaly everyday for the past three years. Last weekend i got introduced to Methadrone, and atm i absolutely love it, all the effects on here are pretty much 100%. the pins and needles in your fingers suck! but yea i’m already pretty dependent on this shit. I feel like i’ve smoked my self stupid these last few years like my personality has just faded away. But the Mcat makes me feel confident, sober i actually hate meeting people, i can’t hold a conversation for life of me ‘cuz i honestly couldn’t care less about anything anybody has to say. i new after my first hit that i wouldn’t stop. i love how it makes me able to say anything on my mind ! but i know i need to get off this shit quick. i’m already bustin’ half g lines and and i haven’t bought any weed for long! i feel like i’ve betrayed myself.
Where to begin … the first time i ever started on drugs was about a year ago n i started on coke! 1g used to last me all nyt then ya get greedy n was avin 3g a nyt! Untill i started avin drugs its shockin the amount off ppl even ya mates that are on it that ya didnt no about – its a whole new world! But cocaine is gods way of sayin ya got too much money! So low n behold whats the new word on the street MCAT!! So i thought fuck it its dirt cheap lets try it – OMG the high was amazing i was in a world of my own, dancing round tunes on!! Before i knew it, it was half 9 in the mornin n cudnt sleep till bout 7 in the evenin!!
So weeks go by n i wont drink or have any drugs then bang out of no where a mad weekend will emerge! For instance i had party not a massive one there were bout 8 of us we started about 8pm on a thursday n didnt finish till 7pm the followin evenin 24hr sesh – great at the time! If i said how much mcat was taken i am disgusted – try 16g!!! Ya cnt stop, ur off ya fuckin face, gurnin, ya feel it pumpin thru ya body – but ppl say they dnt come dwn gotta be talkin shit!!! The come down for me is the depression of taking it, feelin disgusted in myself, wondering what my parents would think, why am i taking it ect ect! A shit load of questions rolling thru my head – whats stuck in my head is we’re the first generation to touch mcat and theres not enough tests done to know the short term/long term effects of it so fuck no’s what its doin to us in the long run!!! From reading every1 elses comments on here ppl have had some really fucked up shit happen all i can say is i’ve never had any really bad shit happen — havnt hallucinated. never had sleep paralasys, gone completely insane and niether have me or any of my mates so god no’s what every1 else has been cut with! XXX
hey im 19, and have been taking meow for nearly a year now, and tbh i dont know what to think of the stuff, i love it becuase it makes me feel awake, energised, and in all invicible and i really love it because i feel like i can be myself without the boundries of like confidence and i would never ever get any come downs ive never had 1 all the time ive done it. 1 of my friends has severe comedowns but with me i am buzzed then when i stop i just go into a kinda peacefull state where like everything is perfect. i ghess im lucky tho cuase 1 of my friends took it for the first time and kinda flipped out he got very paranoid very fast, said he could hear voices, and started having a panic attack, now ever since that night he has energy problems where he cant follow normal sleeping patterns he will not be tired all night and most of the next day then sleep for few hours :S. others however have only small side effects like a massive heading and they say they feel like there brain is trapped and it feels very tight or like the brain being well like it has grown is is being stopped by the skull but since i dont and never have had a side effect i just dont know what to think of meow, if some1 is like me and has not had side effect but now are becuase of how long they have taken it leave a comment so i can know please thx
I’m 20, and i’ve been taking mkat since I was 17. I genuinely believe that i’ve had some of the worst experiences that anyone could have possibly had on this stuff.
First time i took it i was in a club aged 17 on a thursday night, had college the next day but anyway someone offered me some and ended up feeling this euphoria, this love for the music, love for life and just wanted to dance and talk to people. Ended up at some random guys house whilst a few people were snorting and at 6am I invited them back to my house where my dad was asleep. RANDOM people ive never even met before were in mine at 6.30am snorting mkat on a friday morning!
Anyway since then, ive done it almost every time ive been out. Longest session ive done is thursday night to sunday afternoon, with no sleep no food etc just mkat and beer. Ive never snorted the stuff without drinking. Its caused me problems because ive ended up ringing girls up and expressing my love for them, some that are even taken, or tried it on with girls not really knowing what im doing. Also said some utterly cringeworthy things to a lot of people on the stuff, expressing my love to everyone and just generally talking out of my arse lol.
Comedowns have been the worst on this stuff. Ive had comedows where i cant sleep at all, where i just sit there and feel sorry for myself for literally 12 — 24 hours on end. Feeling physically drained, ill, mentally ill regretting everything ive done on the stuff because it wasnt ‘me’ so to speak. Ive questioned the point in life, questionned my existance, would go days not speaking to people because the comedown would make me feel so depressed about every aspect of my life, orrible stuff.
Its screwed a lot of my mates over and they cant see it. Some are in their mid 20s still going out every weekend taking the stuff, it cant end well. Ive now gone almost 4 weeks without touching the stuff and i feel better for it to be honest, although i do miss the euphoria and buzz but certainly dont miss the comedowns!
I am so bored with reading the kind of experiences and warnings which ‘cult of personality’ writes about.…just substitute the words ‘alcohol’ cocaine’ ‘floor polish’ whatever instead of MKAT. ANY DRUG OR INTOXICANT TAKEN TO EXCESS WILL BE APPALLING…anyone with an addictive peronality or who doesnt understand yet what self discipline means will be in danger. Be in no doubt..if MKAT wasnt available something else will be…so.…thanks for sharing fella..but understand exactly what you are saying..which is.. BE RESPONSIBLE whatever you do and if you dont have the inner strength or you have your own demons..somethings gonna gonna get you in the end cos you cant ban everything!