Comments on: Democracy In Action

By: Synchronium

Synchronium — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:13:40 +0000

C-Lo: I believe they'll be suggesting a similar law to the US analogue law, not a carbon copy of it. Still, useful to know. Sharon: All excellent points. Your daughter is lucky she has such a relaxed mum! As it happens, you were my very first email subscriber, and as thanks for your fantastic(ally positive!) comment, I'd be happy to send you a bag of free salvia leaf, if you'd like to email me your address? Chris: Interesting speculation! If the government do have a hand in the illegal drug trade, they certainly wouldn't try and regulate the industry. Why settle for 15% VAT and (relatively small) business taxes, when they could take slice of such a juicy, illegal, profit-filled pie?

By: Chris

Chris — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 12:30:46 +0000

I’m afraid the Government would never go down the path of harm reduction by allowing some kind of regulation in the legal high industry as they have the interests of the illegal drugs trade at heart.

By: sharon

sharon — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:27:49 +0000

D’ya know, this is all making me ill, literally…
Where shall I start…
I have google alert bots (if they are bots-not that clued up on the workings of the net) which bring me alerts when salvia and ibogaine are in the news. Yesterday the moment I’ve been dreading came-I got two google alerts for salvia from the Guardian (UK). All my previous alerts have been from the States. It was only a matter of time before salvia. spice etc those equine specialists (re: ACMD-ecstasy and horse-riding) responded to the early-motion salvia scare-mongers in the house of commons.
This comment may seem to be a bit biased towards salvia and neglectful of spice, but that’s simply because I have no personal experience of spice. It doesn’t really make any difference what substance they want to ban does it-the principle is the same-thou shalt not ingest substances other than those that will kill you (alcohol and tobacco).
Just going to have a bit of a salvia rant now…
How many feckin thousands of years have the Mazatecs been doing salvia?? Forgive me if I’m wrong but I don’t ever remember reading any heart-rending articles in the media about the high mortality rate of Mazatecs from using salvia.
Do you know, what really makes me sick to my core is that salvia is actually a gentle soul-it just gets a bit mad when you make extracts from it. IT’S NOT THE PLANT’S FAULT IF PEOPLE MAKE POWERFUL EXTRACTS OF IT…
I’ve only ever smoked natural leaf, (I’ve got nothing against responsible people doing extracts) and I’ve found it fascinating with regard to the speed it crosses the blood/brain barrier-I’ve never known anything remotely like it. What a fascinating substance. I’ve learned that salvinorin A is unique, only known psychoactive to work on the k-opioid receptor and a diterpinoid. Sorry, I’m no pharmacologist, but this sounds to me like something that should be celebrated, not banned. You can probably answer this John; is it like America here, insofar as if salvia gets banned here, will this mean that it won’t get funding for research into health benefits for mental illness it may have…
My daughter totally flipped the other week-got sectioned again while I was looking after her-she has full-on manic episodes-she was totally unmanagable ’til I rolled a joint with salvia in it as an experiment; her mood changed from violent to harmless-she was still manic but spent three hours after the salvia joint totally happy dancing like a lune to roni size.
One of the many things that makes me ill is that the government is basing this ban on ignorance. I can’t even articulate an argument with them anymore; they make me so ill. Everything I could say now has been said before…
So this is the one thing that I can think of to say that I haven’t heard before
You know that dude frm the ACMD who got bollocked by jacqui smith for saying that horse-riding was more dangerous than ecstasy? Well I’m curious to know if he still works for her on the ACMD. If he does, then how come-why hasn’t he resigned in view of the fact that she made a show of him and totally undermined his professional integritry?
Now, in view of the fact that we know that she made a twat of him and he accepted it, how can he ever expect us to take anything he ever says about drugs making us ill seriously again??
much love synchro to you and your beautiful lady, i love your blog and i look forward to it every week x

By: C-Lo

C-Lo — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:03:22 +0000

Actually, under the US Analogue Act aminoalkylindole synthetic cannabinoids like JWH-018 are legal, as they are not structurally similar to a currently scheduled substance. On the other hand classical cannabinoids or dibenzopyrans like HU-021 do fall under the analogue act, if handled with intent to consume and/or they elucidate a similar pharmacological effect as a scheduled substance, as they are structurally similar to a controlled substance, namely THC.

By: Synchronium

Synchronium — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:37:07 +0000

Max: I believe the ACMD is suggesting an umbrella ban to cover all analogues. Have a read of that report if you’ve got the time. Not read through it all myself yet.

Good idea about using the industry as a model. I bet such a model would have a lot of interesting things to say!

By: max

max — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:41:36 +0000

it will be interesting to see how the government handles this, presumably they will ban JWH-018, CP 47,497 and other cannabinoids often found in these blends, although as this list will undoubtably get longer and longer i can see a ban on all analogues (not necessarily limited to cannabinoids) similar to america’s analogue drug laws.

at least we had a good run – and the government have been consistently slow about this so maybe there will be a year or even more time to stockpile…it’s a shame as the government could have used the legal highs industry as a model to see roughly the effects on society if illegal drugs (or some illegal drugs) were legalised and taxable etcetc