Comments on: JWH-018 Toxicology

By: ASM371

ASM371 — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 03:48:38 +0000

I can say for anyone who says they have had negative side effects from smoking blends that I find this true in some instances. Spice Gold, Spice Diamond, Ultimate Warrior, and Spike 99 (I do not recommend these blends) all gave me a severe head pounding the next day. While the high was very extreme, almost trippy, the day after effects were not worth the buzz. Serenity Now & K3 are purer blends I believe, hell I even smoked 2 grams in one day of both and never experienced any negative side effects besides being so damn stoned I couldn’t decide whether to sit on my ass or fall asleep. Since then I have quit consuming any “spice blends” because I feel they have changed my psychologically and made me develop anger problems. Also a friend of mine ordered the pure 018 and mix it 7 grams of damiana to 400 mgs of pure. The blend was nice and mellow, about the same as Serenity thou not as intense. I would recommend it in moderation ONLY. Also all my friends smoke, some experimented through a bong, gas mask, and vaporizer. The worst feeling my buddy said he had was when he took 4 bong hits of Serenity, he said he was nervous, shaky, anxious, and had a panic attack. But also he said it only lasted for about 20 minutes and after that he was just really stoned. I don’t see any reason why this stuff is bad other than people who are not smart enough to use it wisely. Also the stores around here sell it now, and I frequently encounter police staking the place out harassing customer’s who buy it. Won’t be long until they make this stuff illegal so all those who do smoke it I suggest you stock up on some pure stuff and make your own blends, it will save you a lot of money in the long run and you will know whats in your blend that way, as long as you purchase from a good researchchemicalz company.

By: x1

x1 — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 03:34:26 +0000

400mL Everclear 190 proof.

500mg 018 + 500mg 073.

Thoroughly dissolve. Til you see not a single speck or grain in the fluid. May need to scrape around a bit with a wooden spoon, since a small amount likes to collect at the bottom. Just keep scraping and mashing that little tiny pile of grains at the bottom…it gets smaller and smaller til there’s nothing left and its all dissolved.

You now have 400mL of a solution that comes out to 2.5mg of JWH per milliliter of fluid.

Test first with 2 milliliters. This is a 5mg JWH dose (2.5mg per milliliter, times 2). Wait 30 min (probably less, you’ll feel it coming on surprisingly quick). Do NOT multi-dose during the same session. If you feel nothing, or very little, relax and test again another day. Go have a Caribou Lou. Or three. People get in trouble with this stuff when they double and triple up in one sitting.

I have the full method typed up in my first post way up in this thread somewhere.

I bet there are a lot of people trying this liquid thing with just 018. I swear you need 018 and 073 together to slice all the hard edges off the experience. Very mellow, complete, and good.

By: Berny

Berny — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 02:32:19 +0000

Ok x1..If I do get the 073…So I measure 500 mg each (exact,) how much EverC ? Then how many ml of this brew to make a proper safe enjoyable dose for a newby ?

By: x1

x1 — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 01:29:22 +0000

“approx 700mg”

Hmm, I don’t like that word…approximate…with potent chem.

Well, for 700mg of 018, you would dissolve that in 350mL of 190-proof E for a solution that gives a 2mg dose per milliliter.

At this point I’ll just throw in my usual recommendation that 018 plays beautifully with 073 at a 1 to 1 ratio, and that’s the only way for me….really can’t vouch for 018 solo. Seems mostly to be a straight head high….I’d recommend balancing with an 073 body high to counteract the isolated mindfuck.

Sure you can evaporate off 190-proof E, but the amount of herbal substrate you use is going to determine how much JWH is shot through per gram of bud. I’d recommend going over to drugs-forum and reading up on the make-your-own-blend teks, because you don’t want to half-ass it and get a half-dunked nug from insufficient solution bath, and be hit or miss on your vapes.

And that’s basically why blends suck, even make-your-owns where you control everything. More steps, more variables, more materials…putting you further and further away from the absolute certainty and essence of the raw active chemical…for essentially nostalgic reasons. My thought is…why spend so much time and energy trying to dress up a bleeding-edge synthetic to make it look and feel like reefer? Reminds me of what Allan Holdsworth would say about playing out with the Synthaxe…people always wanted him to make it sound like a Strat.

Thanks for the tip on the Malibu. Gotta check that out! Cheers-

By: Berny

Berny — Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:56:59 +0000

x1, it’s such an awesome clean euphoria – I think because 151 is so clean.
I don’t drink more than 3 “lou’s” in an evening and no hangover at all. Malibu Coconut Rum is best…MMMM..I may have to get some 190 everclear. If I have approx, 700 Mg of Pure JWH-018 ( I’m sure it is ) how much everclear for 2 Mg doses with the JWH-018, and can you evaporate it off ( about 1/2 of the total liquid amount removed and added to Damiana ) and then how would you calculate a smoking amount from the dried matter? Thanks and cheeers on your Caribou Lou “fusion” !

By: x1

x1 — Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:57:30 +0000

Oh damn. Coconut rum. I’m sold.

Hmm, ought to try 1 Caribou Lou with about 2mL 018/073 Everclear solution blended in. That sounds tight! Probably take the edge right off.

By: Berny

Berny — Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:59:22 +0000

No Tim, I’m in 50’s too and a gram would last me about 2-3 months. Teensie, but unless I get a scale I’m going to not partake. Needs to be accurate for lightweights like us.
The way it concentrates from the shoulders up and the lower body feels so dead is the weirdest feeling. Some people just like to party hearty. I just like a little mood lift.
For example, I love drinking Caribou Lou’s and I only drink 2 in an evening. Just right!
Caribou Lou- Caribou Lou is 1 1/2 parts 151-proof rum, 1 part coconut rum, and 5 parts pineapple juice. Combine these ingredients together in a mixing container of your choosing.

Oh–Don’t forget to shake with chipped ice. Voila!

By: Tim

Tim — Mon, 15 Mar 2010 04:21:16 +0000

One would have to wonder what smoking a GRAM of it would do over the course of a night, but I suppose it COULD be done. But geeeze…

That’s about a $50 tab for an evening’s entertainment? Toooo rich for me! A gram of 018 will last me for MONTHS.
Guess this 55 year old is Over The Hill for being such a WUSS… but I still regularly enjoy it, a few MICRO-TEENSY-GRAMS at a time.

Mebbe I’m too old to be a playa?

By: Berny

Berny — Sun, 14 Mar 2010 23:16:46 +0000

Dave- you smoked a gram of herbal blend with JWH-018 not a gram od JWH , right ?
Just needed clarification.

By: Dave

Dave — Sun, 14 Mar 2010 22:10:51 +0000

I just smoked about a gram of this shit last night.. I went to Walgreens today and picked up a self-administered urine drug test for THC, and the test came up NEGATIVE.. Smoke on playa.