Comments on: JWH-018, Spice & Me http://www.synchronium.net/2009/02/14/jwh-018-spice-me/ Fri, 20 Jan 2012 05:46:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Synchroniumhttp://www.synchronium.net/2009/02/14/jwh-018-spice-me/comment-page-10/#comment-30892 Synchronium Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:14:50 +0000 http://www.synchronium.net/?p=291#comment-30892 Ok, this thread takes way too long to load and clearly overlaps with the <a href="http://www.synchronium.net/2010/09/14/synthetic-cannabinoid-discussion-2/" rel="nofollow">Synthetic Cannabinoids Discussion Thread</a> (part 2). I'm locking the comments here, but please continue your discussion at the link above, and remember to update your subscription settings if you subscribe to new comments by email or RSS. A reminder of the rules: 1) No links to, or discussion about, specific vendors. If a particular vendor has behaved consistently bad, and you've got enough evidence to back it up, you can mention it, provided you still don't link to them. 2) Don't put personal information in comments, including your email address, regardless of the situation. There's a shitload of reasons behind this rule - the majority of which are for your own benefit and upon none of which I have the time or the inclination to elaborate further. Ch33rs. Ok, this thread takes way too long to load and clearly overlaps with the Synthetic Cannabinoids Discussion Thread (part 2).

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A reminder of the rules:
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]]> By: davehttp://www.synchronium.net/2009/02/14/jwh-018-spice-me/comment-page-10/#comment-30890 dave Sun, 20 Mar 2011 15:41:44 +0000 http://www.synchronium.net/?p=291#comment-30890 hi peter , yup still pop in here , still curious of my experience of this drug. i'm 100% now , it was a gradual recovery over a year , getting much better after about 3 months. i'm convinced it was a panic disorder brought on by the drug , for all i know the same would have happened with mj , think my brain had had enough after 20 years of smoking , who knows . i did come to the conclusion that all my symptoms were anxiety related , they were very real and scary ! like you i was a chilled out kind of guy , had a couple of bouts of anxiety in the past (i'm 43 now), related directly to family deaths , they didn't last long a few weeks , but gave me something to relate to the way i felt after "that night". i read an interesting article that a drug over does can create a sort of post traumatic stress disorder , i'm pretty sure this is what happened to me . i'm back to getting pissed , chillin drinking coffee etc but i haven't smoked a blunt since .it was the love of my life but i think i'm just one of those people who's brain just says " no more thanks " and as i can now see how fragile and precious mental health can be i think me puffing days are over ! i'm happy for the moderator to pass your email to me or anyone else who wants to contact me , i really do know what your going through and its shit ! peace hi peter , yup still pop in here , still curious of my experience of this drug.
i’m 100% now , it was a gradual recovery over a year , getting much better after about 3 months.
i’m convinced it was a panic disorder brought on by the drug , for all i know the same would have happened with mj , think my brain had had enough after 20 years of smoking , who knows .
i did come to the conclusion that all my symptoms were anxiety related , they were very real and scary !
like you i was a chilled out kind of guy , had a couple of bouts of anxiety in the past (i’m 43 now), related directly to family deaths , they didn’t last long a few weeks , but gave me something to relate to the way i felt after “that night”.
i read an interesting article that a drug over does can create a sort of post traumatic stress disorder , i’m pretty sure this is what happened to me .
i’m back to getting pissed , chillin drinking coffee etc but i haven’t smoked a blunt since .it was the love of my life but i think i’m just one of those people who’s brain just says ” no more thanks ” and as i can now see how fragile and precious mental health can be i think me puffing days are over !

i’m happy for the moderator to pass your email to me or anyone else who wants to contact me , i really do know what your going through and its shit ! peace

]]> By: peterhttp://www.synchronium.net/2009/02/14/jwh-018-spice-me/comment-page-10/#comment-30880 peter Wed, 16 Mar 2011 18:44:16 +0000 http://www.synchronium.net/?p=291#comment-30880 Just wanted to add this, its my symptoms list I wrote out for another site the other day. -Loss of appetite that lasted the very first 5 days, I lost 11-13lbs in that times, couldnt eat anything, drink barely any water also. -pain in jaw, sharp, didnt go to head, but hurt when I moved jaw, lasted 2-3 days in the beginning, still comes and goes every now again for a couple minutes. -Various body aches/joint pains that come and go, seems everyday something else hurts. Still occurs. -Chest pains located around the right and left breast area which was really bad the first month, has lessened and occurs maybe 1-2 times a week now. The first month I also had a feeling as though my lungs were burning (like when you breathe in a chemical) when I breathed in. -my vision issues (the first 2 weeks, I couldnt even watch tv, it made me sick due to the motion and the fast pace of the shots, also the voices from the tv/music got to me, than for a month after that cleared up, everything such as street signs etc was blurry, finally getting better.) - SEVERE anxiety, I was/am hyper sensitive, adrenaline kicked off panic in me for the first 30 days. I even got an attack while playing Super Mario Bros on Wii with my wife and watching movies, it was that bad. -Breathing issues (the first 7 days after the panic attack I felt as though if I didnt concentrate on breathing, I wouldnt breathe on my own. That was the strangest feeling I ever felt, I really thought death was imminent.) Since then, I have had shortness of breath out of nowhere. I still work out and am generally fine, but at times when I go to bed or just lying in the recliner it feels as though I cannot get enough air into my lungs. Also still to this day, if there is a scent such as perfume or a candle burning, it feels as though I am suffocating from the scent as weird as that sounds, like I get sick from the smell and worry about not getting the air in. - Some severe boughts of lightheadedness where it felt as though I was gonna pass out, never felt that way before either. I have never fainted but I have felt as though I was gonna collapse a few times in the past 78 days since I quit, most recently 2 weeks ago while at work. Felt tingling through my whole body, stood up and legs were like jello and had to hang on to the wall. -When I first quit, I slept 15 hours a night the first 2 weeks, since then, I fall asleep fine, but I awaken a minimum 5-6 times a night, EVERY night still going on. -Still get a fluttery feeling in my chest and worrisome thoughts, sort of the fear that I will never be ok. - I also have been getting irritated easily and erupt with anger out of nowhere when normally I was extremely laid back and mellow, now I feel like Bobby Knight at times (the old coach for Indiana University) Just wanted to add this, its my symptoms list I wrote out for another site the other day.

–Loss of appetite that lasted the very first 5 days, I lost 11-13lbs in that times, couldnt eat anything, drink barely any water also.

–pain in jaw, sharp, didnt go to head, but hurt when I moved jaw, lasted 2–3 days in the beginning, still comes and goes every now again for a couple minutes.

–Various body aches/joint pains that come and go, seems everyday something else hurts. Still occurs.

–Chest pains located around the right and left breast area which was really bad the first month, has lessened and occurs maybe 1–2 times a week now. The first month I also had a feeling as though my lungs were burning (like when you breathe in a chemical) when I breathed in.

–my vision issues (the first 2 weeks, I couldnt even watch tv, it made me sick due to the motion and the fast pace of the shots, also the voices from the tv/music got to me, than for a month after that cleared up, everything such as street signs etc was blurry, finally getting better.)

- SEVERE anxiety, I was/am hyper sensitive, adrenaline kicked off panic in me for the first 30 days. I even got an attack while playing Super Mario Bros on Wii with my wife and watching movies, it was that bad.

–Breathing issues (the first 7 days after the panic attack I felt as though if I didnt concentrate on breathing, I wouldnt breathe on my own. That was the strangest feeling I ever felt, I really thought death was imminent.) Since then, I have had shortness of breath out of nowhere. I still work out and am generally fine, but at times when I go to bed or just lying in the recliner it feels as though I cannot get enough air into my lungs. Also still to this day, if there is a scent such as perfume or a candle burning, it feels as though I am suffocating from the scent as weird as that sounds, like I get sick from the smell and worry about not getting the air in.

- Some severe boughts of lightheadedness where it felt as though I was gonna pass out, never felt that way before either. I have never fainted but I have felt as though I was gonna collapse a few times in the past 78 days since I quit, most recently 2 weeks ago while at work. Felt tingling through my whole body, stood up and legs were like jello and had to hang on to the wall.

–When I first quit, I slept 15 hours a night the first 2 weeks, since then, I fall asleep fine, but I awaken a minimum 5–6 times a night, EVERY night still going on.

–Still get a fluttery feeling in my chest and worrisome thoughts, sort of the fear that I will never be ok.

- I also have been getting irritated easily and erupt with anger out of nowhere when normally I was extremely laid back and mellow, now I feel like Bobby Knight at times (the old coach for Indiana University)

]]> By: peterhttp://www.synchronium.net/2009/02/14/jwh-018-spice-me/comment-page-10/#comment-30879 peter Wed, 16 Mar 2011 05:39:23 +0000 http://www.synchronium.net/?p=291#comment-30879 Hi Dave, I was wondering if there was a way to contact one another regarding some questions I have had. I had a bad experience after smoking about 3g a week for 1 year, so 160g in total for an estimate. I never had a bad experience prior to this but got a massive panic attack on Christmas Eve. It has now been 79 days. Like you, I quit caffeine, quit smoking cigs, quit smoking blends and have been eating healthy etc. I am still getting light headed, still have boughts of dizziness, still feel short of breath at times, but all my medical tests came back ok. I had an echocardiogram, stress test, pulmonary function test, chest xray, blood tests and urine tests, the only thing I had was slightly elevated ALT liver enzymes. How long has it been for you? Do you feel normal yet? I also havent drank and even taking like Excedrin sent me into a panic from the caffeine in it lol. I am just HYPERsensitive to everything right now. I am still getting feelings as though I will pass out, still get nervous and paranoid alot. The day I had my panic attack, I went to the ER and the following week I lost 10lbs because I couldnt eat. It was horrible. Even though I feel about 75% right now, I still worry about getting an anxiety attack. I never had health issues or anxiety before this even while smoking the blends. I used to play PS3 games all the time, now they get my adrenaline going and it feels as though I will get a panic attack. I have seen numerous dr's and they all suggest I try Lexapro for 12 months, but would prefer to deal with it naturally, just I have been scared that these symptoms are still here even at almost 3 months. I am hoping you still visit the site and would love to get in contact with you somehow if possible. Let me know if you know a way, it would help me alot. Thanks Pete Hi Dave, I was wondering if there was a way to contact one another regarding some questions I have had. I had a bad experience after smoking about 3g a week for 1 year, so 160g in total for an estimate. I never had a bad experience prior to this but got a massive panic attack on Christmas Eve. It has now been 79 days. Like you, I quit caffeine, quit smoking cigs, quit smoking blends and have been eating healthy etc.

I am still getting light headed, still have boughts of dizziness, still feel short of breath at times, but all my medical tests came back ok. I had an echocardiogram, stress test, pulmonary function test, chest xray, blood tests and urine tests, the only thing I had was slightly elevated ALT liver enzymes.

How long has it been for you? Do you feel normal yet? I also havent drank and even taking like Excedrin sent me into a panic from the caffeine in it lol. I am just HYPERsensitive to everything right now. I am still getting feelings as though I will pass out, still get nervous and paranoid alot. The day I had my panic attack, I went to the ER and the following week I lost 10lbs because I couldnt eat. It was horrible. Even though I feel about 75% right now, I still worry about getting an anxiety attack. I never had health issues or anxiety before this even while smoking the blends.

I used to play PS3 games all the time, now they get my adrenaline going and it feels as though I will get a panic attack. I have seen numerous dr’s and they all suggest I try Lexapro for 12 months, but would prefer to deal with it naturally, just I have been scared that these symptoms are still here even at almost 3 months. I am hoping you still visit the site and would love to get in contact with you somehow if possible. Let me know if you know a way, it would help me alot. Thanks Pete

]]> By: davehttp://www.synchronium.net/2009/02/14/jwh-018-spice-me/comment-page-10/#comment-30875 dave Mon, 14 Mar 2011 19:47:48 +0000 http://www.synchronium.net/?p=291#comment-30875 your wrong jay , be careful . your wrong jay , be careful .

]]> By: jay was herehttp://www.synchronium.net/2009/02/14/jwh-018-spice-me/comment-page-10/#comment-30870 jay was here Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:52:43 +0000 http://www.synchronium.net/?p=291#comment-30870 this has been a great read, lots of good info but lots of junk too, i apreciate all the comments left here but use my own judgement as the 'weight' i put on all of ur submitted 'facts' As i use my own judgement on what i eat, drink, smoke and take up the nostral. i have smoked pot for years,(not anymore) i used to get it for free so it was always in abondance. would wake up at 2 in the morning n get up for a bong, stoned 24-7 for probly 2 years. i work in a job that does drug testing now so for the last 8 mounths i havnt touched it. its been great accually. afew days ago a mate told me about this gear he got from the net, claimed it was 'fu#kn awsum man u gota try it!!' doesnt cum up on tests. i looked into it and discovered its full of JWH 018, JWH 200, JWH 250, JWH 073, so i gave it a go. i had one bucket bong, quite a big cone piece but i guessed it wod similer to pot n thort it wod be a pretty good hit- was heaps more intence. took about 15 mins n i realised i was stoned, then maby 30 mins n i was fuct up! haha was majic, then i lost the perception of time alltogether, i was tripping balls, completly off my head- one, yes one bong, defnly came in waves and then gradually got more relaxd n felt like i was just really stoned. but for a while, few hours maby i was spastic. just like id had a tab of acid. all in all i loved it, i was in a great environment, with good mates, ened up watchn 'kickass' haha fuckn funny movie when youre tripping, was almost 3d, and haliarous. i definitly recomend having a go, was a very positive experience for me and i am investigating a bulk import. i dont like the posts on here of people saying dont try it, its poison, it ruined my life blah blah, try to report ur experiences objectivly, keep your facts and emotions seperate. if u went and and bort a bottle of wisky n drank it all youd probly hav a bad time too, same goes for ingesting too much of almost any substance...coffee, sugar, crack. enjoy with care and take responsibility weather its good or bad time had, the last thing we need is our sad excuse for a government removing more freedom, freedom of choice, peace, this has been a great read, lots of good info but lots of junk too, i apreciate all the comments left here but use my own judgement as the ‘weight’ i put on all of ur submitted ‘facts’ As i use my own judgement on what i eat, drink, smoke and take up the nostral.
i have smoked pot for years,(not anymore) i used to get it for free so it was always in abondance. would wake up at 2 in the morning n get up for a bong, stoned 24–7 for probly 2 years. i work in a job that does drug testing now so for the last 8 mounths i havnt touched it. its been great accually. afew days ago a mate told me about this gear he got from the net, claimed it was ‘fu#kn awsum man u gota try it!!’ doesnt cum up on tests. i looked into it and discovered its full of JWH 018, JWH 200, JWH 250, JWH 073, so i gave it a go.
i had one bucket bong, quite a big cone piece but i guessed it wod similer to pot n thort it wod be a pretty good hit– was heaps more intence. took about 15 mins n i realised i was stoned, then maby 30 mins n i was fuct up! haha was majic, then i lost the perception of time alltogether, i was tripping balls, completly off my head– one, yes one bong, defnly came in waves and then gradually got more relaxd n felt like i was just really stoned. but for a while, few hours maby i was spastic. just like id had a tab of acid.
all in all i loved it, i was in a great environment, with good mates, ened up watchn ‘kickass’ haha fuckn funny movie when youre tripping, was almost 3d, and haliarous.
i definitly recomend having a go, was a very positive experience for me and i am investigating a bulk import.
i dont like the posts on here of people saying dont try it, its poison, it ruined my life blah blah, try to report ur experiences objectivly, keep your facts and emotions seperate.
if u went and and bort a bottle of wisky n drank it all youd probly hav a bad time too, same goes for ingesting too much of almost any substance…coffee, sugar, crack.
enjoy with care and take responsibility weather its good or bad time had, the last thing we need is our sad excuse for a government removing more freedom, freedom of choice,
peace,

]]> By: Jasperhttp://www.synchronium.net/2009/02/14/jwh-018-spice-me/comment-page-10/#comment-30866 Jasper Fri, 11 Mar 2011 02:30:16 +0000 http://www.synchronium.net/?p=291#comment-30866 Hey guys, well its been about three weeks and I feel almost 100% better. I started taking that Megaman multi vitamin from GNC right from the get go and I really think its helped me a lot. stopped taking the pill for a day and still felt fine. This JWH-018 is terrible. I still feel distant to a point, however. When I am having fun or out with friends It's not there, only when I am just kind of chilling in my room or in class. Its gotten a lot better but its still there somewhat. Trying not to think about it and hope my brain heals 100%. The brain is extremely plastic and capable of repairing itself, over time. I'm sure I'll be fine now. Just keep spreading the word about this stuff, its really a dangerous drug for some people. Thanks Dave for the uplifting words. I'm sure I'll be 100% in a few more weeks. Just gotta shake this distance feeling for good. Hey guys, well its been about three weeks and I feel almost 100% better. I started taking that Megaman multi vitamin from GNC right from the get go and I really think its helped me a lot. stopped taking the pill for a day and still felt fine. This JWH-018 is terrible.

I still feel distant to a point, however. When I am having fun or out with friends It’s not there, only when I am just kind of chilling in my room or in class. Its gotten a lot better but its still there somewhat. Trying not to think about it and hope my brain heals 100%. The brain is extremely plastic and capable of repairing itself, over time. I’m sure I’ll be fine now.

Just keep spreading the word about this stuff, its really a dangerous drug for some people.

Thanks Dave for the uplifting words. I’m sure I’ll be 100% in a few more weeks. Just gotta shake this distance feeling for good.

]]> By: Rookieshttp://www.synchronium.net/2009/02/14/jwh-018-spice-me/comment-page-10/#comment-30858 Rookies Thu, 10 Mar 2011 00:00:22 +0000 http://www.synchronium.net/?p=291#comment-30858 Hey everybody in this post talking about bad experiences, I wish you all would have never tried this stuff. I got a job in the industrial construction industry about 4 years ago. I started buying spice gold when it wasnt even available in the US at head shops. I was buying it from europe over the internet. I have been smoking daily for the last 3-4 years and can say for sure that when used correctly and not by rookies it is great. Before my new job I was a heavy user of all drugs that did not require a needle. Since switching I have not had one bad experience. All you people on hear talking about going to the hospital and having bad experiences - you are the reason that this stuff is now illegal in the US. I wish nobody found out about it and I was still buying it off the internet. Thanks alot Rookies, way to ruin a good thing. When you come on hear to tell others not to do it because you had a bad experience, you need to point out that you are a jack ass and dont know what the hell you are doing Hey everybody in this post talking about bad experiences, I wish you all would have never tried this stuff. I got a job in the industrial construction industry about 4 years ago. I started buying spice gold when it wasnt even available in the US at head shops. I was buying it from europe over the internet. I have been smoking daily for the last 3–4 years and can say for sure that when used correctly and not by rookies it is great. Before my new job I was a heavy user of all drugs that did not require a needle. Since switching I have not had one bad experience. All you people on hear talking about going to the hospital and having bad experiences — you are the reason that this stuff is now illegal in the US. I wish nobody found out about it and I was still buying it off the internet. Thanks alot Rookies, way to ruin a good thing.

When you come on hear to tell others not to do it because you had a bad experience, you need to point out that you are a jack ass and dont know what the hell you are doing

]]> By: NeverAgainhttp://www.synchronium.net/2009/02/14/jwh-018-spice-me/comment-page-10/#comment-30827 NeverAgain Thu, 03 Mar 2011 13:04:36 +0000 http://www.synchronium.net/?p=291#comment-30827 I am so hapy that people are telling the truth about this shit….maybe it will save someone from getting long term damage to their health. Because really….nobody knows. To me it’s POISON….even the creators said it wasnt good for people to use for gawds sake……I’m not that desparate to get high….it’s not even a fun mellow high…so why bother….why not just go huff on an aerosol can or something if you’re gonna be reckless with your health LOL. I'm kidding....don't try that either! I am so hapy that people are telling the truth about this shit….maybe it will save someone from getting long term damage to their health. Because really….nobody knows. To me it’s POISON….even the creators said it wasnt good for people to use for gawds sake……I’m not that desparate to get high….it’s not even a fun mellow high…so why bother….why not just go huff on an aerosol can or something if you’re gonna be reckless with your health LOL.

I’m kidding.…don’t try that either!

]]> By: NeverAgainhttp://www.synchronium.net/2009/02/14/jwh-018-spice-me/comment-page-10/#comment-30826 NeverAgain Thu, 03 Mar 2011 13:02:25 +0000 http://www.synchronium.net/?p=291#comment-30826 I am so hapy that people are telling the truth about this shit....maybe it will save someone from getting long term damage to their health. Because really....nobody knows. To me it's POISON....even the creators said it wasnt good for people to use for gawds sake......I'm not that desparate to get high....it's not even a fun mellow high...so why bother....why not just go huff on an aerosol can or something if you're gonna be recklace LOL. I am so hapy that people are telling the truth about this shit.…maybe it will save someone from getting long term damage to their health. Because really.…nobody knows. To me it’s POISON.…even the creators said it wasnt good for people to use for gawds sake.…..I’m not that desparate to get high.…it’s not even a fun mellow high…so why bother.…why not just go huff on an aerosol can or something if you’re gonna be recklace LOL.

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